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McNeo · 10-13-2007, 01:17 AM,

Right then, I hearby propose all reinforcements are allowed by right to enter the battle whenever the battle is still going on. Both sides did this in the past and both sides should continue to be able to do so.

TBH reinforcements were only one (who happened to be a very good pilot) in that fight, and RM also would have had an extra reinforcement.

The fight before on saturday above Fulda, many RM came to reinforce the defenders there.

I think this should be allowed for both sides. Its not as if either side wouldn't bring up reinforcements in a real situation like that, if they were available.

To avoid further confusion, this is what should be done. Otherwise, it is unfair if you have plans which will stretch the mark by 10 minutes or so.

Also, any agreement such as this needs to be broadcasted on console chat. I had no idea until skye was put in NY that we werent having reinforcements. I bet that pee'd him off to, as he went all that way for nothing. He was also present before the fight started, and we would have waited for him, but we were told to fight.

There are no other rules. No requests should be fulfilled by the admins on sight unless the commanders of each side agree. As far as I know, TBH was not consulted, so it came as a shock when we were told no reinforcements.

majkp · (This post was last modified: 10-13-2007, 02:42 AM by majkp.)

It's settled then, next time all reinforcement from the participating factions are able to join. But it should be at least said on system chat, xsomething like 'reinforcements arrived' or so...

Next fight, Fulda station, this saturday (today/tomorrow) at 22GMT. TBH/SCRA will be defending it, while RM will lead the attack. I just don't know how to persuade the turrets on Fulda Border Station to fire at RM...:P

I_m_rdy · 10-13-2007, 09:59 AM,

We just stay a few k away from the station, that should do the job.

But anyway, it was a great fight, both sides were doing great, I really enjoyed this. Too bad I crashed in the middle of the fight.

But anyway, let's have another great fight today!:)

DBoy1612 · (This post was last modified: 10-13-2007, 07:36 PM by DBoy1612.)

Ok, I've just heard about 3 different rumors flying around my Xfire that other groups would be joining the SCRA/TBH/RM war... Let me make it clear, NO! The RP written for this war only involved the TBH, RM and SCRA. And there has been nothing discussed with the RM about it, not sure what the TBH is doing... So, no Mercenaries, no AoR, no RepEx, no LDDLG, ect ect... And as Bulldog has already stated, anyone interfering with this will most likely be removed from the system. (And no, you can't reply in this thread to complain...). Sorry if you think I'm being unfair, but I'm playing this one by the book.

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McNeo · 10-13-2007, 07:42 PM,

I concur. No other groups will enter. We are having a poll privately about Wraith involvment, but right now the arguement is in favour of keeping them out of this war.

Let me make this clear, reinforceing Dboy's comment above.

THIS WAR IS BETWEEN TBH/SCRA and RM ONLY. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO MUSCLE IN ON OUR WAR, WE AINT GONNA LET YA! ANY UNAUTHORISED PERSONS IN THE SYSTEM WILL PROBABLY BE REMOVED OUT OF THE SYSTEM. IF YOU WANT A GOOD WAR, GO ORGANISE ONE.

Dab · (This post was last modified: 10-13-2007, 07:48 PM by Dab.)

' Wrote:I concur. No other groups will enter. We are having a poll privately about Wraith involvment, but right now the arguement is in favour of keeping them out of this war.

Let me make this clear, reinforceing Dboy's comment above.

THIS WAR IS BETWEEN TBH/SCRA and RM ONLY. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO MUSCLE IN ON OUR WAR, WE AINT GONNA LET YA! ANY UNAUTHORISED PERSONS IN THE SYSTEM WILL PROBABLY BE REMOVED OUT OF THE SYSTEM. IF YOU WANT A GOOD WAR, GO ORGANISE ONE.

Funny how no one even associated with Wraith was told of it. Real fair right there. Especially when we have as much RP reason to be there as RM does, and were told no less than two weeks ago that we were allowed in on a limited basis that I agreed with. This is going on for the sole reason that some of the TBH/RM don't like me personally.

DBoy1612 · (This post was last modified: 10-13-2007, 08:06 PM by DBoy1612.)

' Wrote:I added Wraith (Bundschuh) to the list. I think enabling them to appear sometime could spice it a bit. Anyone from the currently involved parties strongly against?

' Wrote:(Posting as Vice Admiral Meric Freelamen, so I fall under a high ranked member)

No, no Wraith, no Scythe, no Outcasts, no one else. Keep it to the TBH, RM and SCRA like how the RP was written.

' Wrote:As for the Bundschuh being involved, I don't like it. They would stay out. They feel the Rheinland government is corrupt (Nomads, yeah? o.O) but don't want an external force in control of Rheinland. Especially not the Corsairs. Since Wraith is basically only Dab, anyway...

' Wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of Bundschuh flying around every now and then, they should play a part, but a very small one.

' Wrote:Personally, Bundschuh should butt-out.

' Wrote:Regarding Bundschuh - Let's wait how the first battles end and we can decide later.

' Wrote:Well Maj, I think it would be best for Wraith to get TBH and RM locked in a battle over Holstein. That means TBH at Fulda, RM at Mannheim. Right now TBH has Fulda, and RM has Mannheim and Holstein. So the best thing to do here would be if Bundschuh did get involved, but took on RM first, indirectly helping TBH.

Right then, that is every single quote from this thread mentioning both the Bundschuh and Wraith. Sorry Dab, but please tell me where an RM official agreed on letting Wraith interfere with the war... Or even better, where the TBH to gave you the go ahead to come in. What was posted above was only a suggestion. The TBH, RM and SCRA agreed that we would work everything out in this war together. Work out all the ideas, and all the problems. If one doesn't agree, then it doesn't happen.

And what about everyone else, eh? If we let in one faction that didn't belong in the RP, then were going to have to let EVERYONE in... Sorry, not happening. This war so far as been calm, flameless, and fun. I'm not going to let that change.

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Dab · 10-13-2007, 08:06 PM,

' Wrote:Right then, that is every single quote from this thread mentioning both the Bundschuh and Wraith. Sorry Dab, but please tell me where an RM official agreed on letting Wraith interfere with the war... Or even better, when the TBH to gave you the go ahead to come in. What was posted above was only a suggestion. The TBH, RM and SCRA agreed that we would work everything out in this war together. Work out all the ideas, and all the problems. If one doesn't agree, then it doesn't happen.

And what about everyone else, eh? If we let one faction that didn't belong in the RP, then were going to have to let EVERYONE in... Sorry, not happening. This war so far as been calm, flameless, and fun. I'm not going to let that change.

You have already done so. SCRA is in this. They are Coalition who have very few reasons to even be in Rheinland, but are there. Now when BUNDSCHUH, people who have almost as much right to be involved that RM does, are not allowed in. Now how does SCRA have more right to be involved in a war on Rheinland, and Bundschuh who are Rheinland Rebels, not have any right?

And I see you and Virus saying no, Majkp saying I can be at the very beginning of this, and Equinox saying it might not be a bad idea.

bluntpencil2001 · 10-13-2007, 08:18 PM,

The SCRA have plenty reasons.

Enough jibber-jabber, they don't want to play with Wraith.

Dopamino · (This post was last modified: 10-13-2007, 09:07 PM by Dopamino.)

Sorry to intrude, but Dab is making perfect sense.
It's completely illogical that Bundschuh and Hessians (and Unioners on the other side too) would just disappear and do nothing while CORSAIRS, the second largest enemy of the Hessians after Rheinland forces, are INVADING THEIR HOME. If you guys wanted to just have a big series of battles that make no sense and have only 2 sides, then you should have done it on the PVP server.
This is stupid.

Once again, sorry for intruding, but that needed to be said. Delete my post if you wish. I don't care.

I mostly lurk around Media Center these days.

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