@Dusty
From what I understand, the Core is funded by several billionaires etc who see the benefit in both nuking the nomads and also stealing their tech - for money and power.
The Core controls the Guild due to it's simple proximity I assumed.
If the Core are going to be looking for a new place to call home, aside from Omega-56, I'd definitely be interested in helping out.
@ Dusty: They share the AP line of ships, and from a player perspective will still have a lot of the same players. The big thing is that they're just going in two different directions RP wise, and it's just not possible to keep them together under one banner.
@Jinx: Regarding official status, the bounty hunter ID is a generic one, so you can have more than one official faction. It's simply that we had things so organized that there haven't been many other groups come up until lately.
@ Dusty again: Pretty much what Linkus said - the Core was founded by the money people that own AP and the related lines. It was started to gain access to new tech, so that AP could then offer ships and weapons that no one else would have - thus increasing their own wealth. Thus, we have Dabadoru sitting in the middle of an iridium field that the Core effectively owns - mining, processing, and selling the ore that all shipyards need, and while they're not the only source, if they don't have to pay someone ELSE for their raw materials, then they've increased their own profit margins considerably.
@Cam - at the time, we WERE serious. The actual intent at that time was to then split the faction if we got the system and let the Core have 74. Ideally, the BHG should have a system closer to house space, but ... you take what you can get. Since the DW used to own Omega-56, when they vanished due to ... well, we don't need to cover that again, do we? ... the S/D was in a position to buy it, and we did. One thing that allowed us to do was to move the big cap ships into our own guard system as well - and it would be perfectly within RP for those ships to stay at Alabama, since AP does still supply everyone (Core and BHG) with their ships.
The corporation at the heart of both groups still exists, after all, even if it is (as far as we the players are concerned) mostly an in-rp forum existance company. The barge and trading ships still exist in game for hauling supplies. There are still contract miners hired to work the fields in Delta.
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
Interesting points you guys are making about the bases and such considering who is official and who isn't. Since before S/D decided to amalgamate Core into their official status that would mean Core didn't have any bases because it was always S/D that owned the guard systems. Would this mean, under the logic being presented, that Core never would've survived even to the amalgamation and thus not exist? I like slippery slopes, my GT racer sled likes slippery slopes too. In all seriousness, Core will manage fine, it's safe to assume that they will guard the entrance to the guard system from Rostock and enjoy access to the guard system as well. Core wasn't prevented from it's useage back when it wasn't official, I imagine this won't change.
Yes it's safe to say, to those reading this post and know me, that I'm smiling warmly. I'm glad memories weren't lost on who was the officials and owners of the guard system if there was a split. I'm absolutely certain Montezuma will have Core official and up on it's own feet in no time. He knows what he's doing and the Core members have experience from a track record. Gives them a solid new project to work on too, fun stuff.
- when you re going to write a revised lore about the core station - you might need to stick to whats there a bit more (or have solid reason to change it and/or an understanding with everyone in the particular location and those involved with the faction as is:
- the core id card states that the core is founded by the bhg ( no other sources are mentioned )
- dabadoru is a depot - just like yaren is only a depot.
- the palau iridium is mostly harvested by ppl harvesting for FP11 ( FP11 sells iridium at the lowest price.... dabadoru does not sell / offer iridium )
- since i brought up a BHG core station into the developement of 4.85 .... it was meant to drive the core off FP11 primarily, cause it made little to no sense with the order nearby... but the BHG station was never meant to be anything but a relais station. - the reason the BHG roams the edgeworlds in capital ships is... cause they live on those things.
the above is how things are meant to be ( in a way )
i am aware that things change - they should not change unilaterally though - but only through communication with all parties involved.
the above is not meant as critizism or meant to correct you in anyway - its just what the situation was meant to be at the start of 4.85
For some reason I always forget about Dabadabadoo Station. I'm not Core, never was, so I don't venture out in the area but yeah Core has Dabadabadoo which is a good thing. I also like the idea of giving the mysterious and barely mentioned AP a bit more content and strength. They may very well have existed as long as the BHG and easily had the resources to give birth to the Core from Alabama.
' Wrote:@Jinx: Regarding official status, the bounty hunter ID is a generic one, so you can have more than one official faction. It's simply that we had things so organized that there haven't been many other groups come up until lately.
When the current BHG faction became official it was under this assumption:
Quote:When a faction is created, the leader must select a primary ID that identifies the faction's primary role and identity. The Guard ID associated with the primary ID choice is assumed to be included as part of the primary ID choice.
ie the BHG ID and the Core ID. That is to say, one faction, which happens to have different modus operandi.
The overlap in responsibility, etc. was initially resolved by there being a council with a voting procedure that ensured a relatively coherent policy on stuff.
It seems very confused and muddled now.
It was also my understanding that the bounty hunter ID is not a generic one, it is a factional one.
:unsure:to me as an independent BHG who owns both a smaller ship (with BHG ID) and bigger ship (with BHG CORE ID) , this shouldn't mean anything or?:unsure:
Afaik the BHG CORE ID at the moment isn't special ID owned by the faction (like say HF ID or Colonial ID), but rather a generic BHG GUARD-like ID. Meaning the BHG CORED ID owners (not BHG CORE faction members) are still part of BHG RP.
Basically BHG players can still own capships while following the restricted area of operations/RP behind them and don't need to follow some new different RP by the BHG Core faction?
as per faction rule 2:
Quote:RIGHT 2) Official factions have authority over players of the same NPC affiliation, as long as RP justification is provided. This authority applies in forums and in-game, and applies to player faction diplomacy, and strategic and tactical direction. However, exercise of that authority, on the forums and in game, is restricted to official faction members with the rank of the official faction leader and one rank below him/her. The authority may be exercised through the use of in-game in-RP orders, which, if not obeyed, can result in in-game in-RP consequences (arrest, court martial, and even "lethal" force in extreme circumstances). Official Factions cannot, under any cicrumstances, require another player to follow non-canon RP if that player doesn't want to.
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