Aoi Iseijin General Information and Place to cry your eyes out

[Cond0r]

Don't bother responding, and I won't bother interacting with your faction.

Dont bother whining, and I wont bother ignoring you.

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[17:23:05] Mini Me: pls
[17:23:06] Mini Me: gtfo

[Lobster]

If you are infecting so much Dragons, how come you don't infect a Dragon gunboat

We have

or Dragon destroyer?

We have

Or some Kusari Explorer for that matter?

Remember that full nom boat I was talking about?

Or are you picky and you infect only the best ships?

I have a wild Arrow.

[Skyrim]

No, it's not proving my argument invalid, because Chimaeras are your most obvious choice.

I am not convinced by your 'arguments'.
If you are infecting so much Dragons, how come you don't infect a Dragon gunboat or Dragon destroyer?
Or some Kusari Explorer for that matter?
Or are you picky and you infect only the best ships?

But yeah, I suppose my question was answered in the best possible manner, and will thus take my leave off this thread.
Don't bother responding, and I won't bother interacting with your faction.

According to your posts, your criticism had only to do with PvP advantage using for example Katanas over Chimeras. I showed you that you can shotgun a Katana with a Chimera, and being able to shotgun a VHF means a lot to higher-skilled pilots because with instakill ability you can turn the tables a lot easier despite facing superior numbers. Therefore this fictional PvP advantage isn't really there. Now you say you will refuse to interact with a faction solely because they use good equipment? Well your choice but that just invalidates the constructive part of your criticsm. If you truly are so concerned about PvP try becoming better at it rather than picking on a few number variations.

[Shagohad]

Mjolnir:

I'm going to put this as nicely and sweetly as possible:

It's not against the rules to define our own roleplay and what we use. Katanas are more or less what Tekagi's Remnants have gotten their hands on. With all the Blood Dragons attacking them, it's bound to happen that a desperate group is going to use what it can get.

But that's not your qualm. Your qualm is that we are using a combination that you can't beat. And don't pussy-foot around this subject as if saying, "I'm a balancer, I have to worry." No, you don't. And to be honest, your passive-aggressive threats of "I'M GONNA" NERF YOUR STUFF IF YOU DON'T LISTEN!" is not riding me too well. It's not our guns that make us awesome, it's the people in the group. Not my fault if they can competently kill things.

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"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THE SCIENCE IS LEAKING OUT!"

[chopper]

According to your posts, your criticism had only to do with PvP advantage using for example Katanas over Chimeras. I showed you that you can shotgun a Katana with a Chimera, and being able to shotgun a VHF means a lot to higher-skilled pilots because with instakill ability you can turn the tables a lot easier despite facing superior numbers. Therefore this fictional PvP advantage isn't really there. Now you say you will refuse to interact with a faction solely because they use good equipment? Well your choice but that just invalidates the constructive part of your criticsm. If you truly are so concerned about PvP try becoming better at it rather than picking on a few number variations.

What I am trying to understand is why are you using technology you shouldn't be using.
Of course, pvp advantages are always a problem, and thus a topic of countless discussions, including this one as well.

And considering you are a 'special faction' you should be more open to feedback.

Now, let's talk about that shotgun.
2xDisinfectors + 4 Heimdals + Mini Razor do 26.000 damage per my calculation, unless you shoot Disinfectors twice, which makes it significantly harder and is not really a shotgun.
Katana's armor is 27.000 (10.800*2.5).
Not to mention how hard it is to Shotgun such a small ship.

Now, I thought you guys had a SRP for using Katanas. Now I see that I was wrong.
I checked it and I only found a SRP for using Outcast technology.
I also checked if the Blood Dragons allowed you to use their equipment, even though the tech chart is red for Wilde-BD relations. I thought it was white at one point, perhaps.
Nothing.
And the box is still red.

So, am I missing something or you are currently breaking server rules?

And my decision not to interact with this faction is not solely based on equipment you choose, but the attitude most of you are taking in this feedback thread.
It's mostly "We kill all no matter what we fly cuz we'r best and you Q_Q learn to fly becauz u noob".

Smokey, considering your very constructing answers to your own feedback thread, I have no problem with you ignoring me.
Aerelm is the only one who tried to explain something without bitterness, and I thank him for that.

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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del

[Skyrim]

What I am trying to understand is why are you using technology you shouldn't be using.
Of course, pvp advantages are always a problem, and thus a topic of countless discussions, including this one as well.

And considering you are a 'special faction' you should be more open to feedback.

Now, let's talk about that shotgun.
2xDisinfectors + 4 Heimdals + Mini Razor do 26.000 damage per my calculation, unless you shoot Disinfectors twice, which makes it significantly harder and is not really a shotgun.
Katana's armor is 27.000 (10.800*2.5).
Not to mention how hard it is to Shotgun such a small ship.

Sorry when I checked the wiki I looked at the power output it said 10.400 which makes it 26000. If I shotgunned the enemy Katana I must have probably hurt him a sliver of hull before doing so. Either way I still feel that there is no big difference between Black Dragon, Katana and Chimaera. Not one enough for me to notice at least but indeed, being able to shotgun makes a lot of difference. And really, for me at least it is no harder to shotgun a Black Dragon than an Eagle since they both have to commit the same movement mistake to get hit in the first place.

Now I'm NOT a member of Aoi Iseijin (in response to a part of your statement) but I have seen your posts in for example the Reavers Feedback and I feel its the same argument being used there. Your main complaint isn't about some part of Role-Play or way of conduct but rather strictly on the equipment being used itself. I feel this is just some cheap attempt to dictate other players on what equipment they should be using so either you or an interested party can have an easier time in combat. I suggested and still am suggesting if this is the case, which to me it looks like given your posting history, that you should focus on training in combat rather than complain about what guns the enemy should/shouldn't use.

I'm not answering you with bitterness I'm simply stating that I hardly find your feedback to be any form of constructive criticism since its just revolving trivial arguments about guns which to me makes no real harmful impact on the gaming experience. And the way you present it with such hostility will most likely result in the situation not changing at all so essentially your efforts are pointless due to this.

If you feel they are breaking the rules you can also report them or ask the faction leader over PM to fix it instead of making it a public spectacle.

And my decision not to interact with this faction is not solely based on equipment you choose, but the attitude most of you are taking in this feedback thread.

I feel you are taking a rather hypocritical stance claiming their attitude is bad and therefore you will fall down to their "supposed bad level" by refusing to interact with them. Either way if you really decide to ignore them then I hardly see the point of any of your posts since you won't even meet them to begin with.

With this I have made my final statement and see no reason to discuss further, really am already going outside my boundaries in this feedback thread - we should have diverted to a more balance discussion thread.

[Shagohad]

What I am trying to understand is why are you using technology you shouldn't be using.
Of course, pvp advantages are always a problem, and thus a topic of countless discussions, including this one as well.

And considering you are a 'special faction' you should be more open to feedback.

Now, let's talk about that shotgun.
2xDisinfectors + 4 Heimdals + Mini Razor do 26.000 damage per my calculation, unless you shoot Disinfectors twice, which makes it significantly harder and is not really a shotgun.
Katana's armor is 27.000 (10.800*2.5).
Not to mention how hard it is to Shotgun such a small ship.

Now, I thought you guys had a SRP for using Katanas. Now I see that I was wrong.
I checked it and I only found a SRP for using Outcast technology.
I also checked if the Blood Dragons allowed you to use their equipment, even though the tech chart is red for Wilde-BD relations. I thought it was white at one point, perhaps.
Nothing.
And the box is still red.

So, am I missing something or you are currently breaking server rules?

And my decision not to interact with this faction is not solely based on equipment you choose, but the attitude most of you are taking in this feedback thread.
It's mostly "We kill all no matter what we fly cuz we'r best and you Q_Q learn to fly becauz u noob".

Smokey, considering your very constructing answers to your own feedback thread, I have no problem with you ignoring me.
Aerelm is the only one who tried to explain something without bitterness, and I thank him for that.

The Iseijin are based on a rather undefined rule scheme. It's a public secret that we use any Kusari ship based on our faction and what has been defined by Exile. Given the nature of Tekagi's Remnant, the act of deception using various ships is how the Hunters function.

JihadJoe is the main progenitor of the Hunters, making up their methods. A hunter will go out, cry wolf, and kill who ever tries to help it. Or they play a part and use surprise to mask the fact that they're different. IE a Blood Dragon will be under attack and a Wild Katana will come in and assist them. Then it will kill them.

An Aoi ID used to be in the works, but with the disappearance of Akura, that work has been lost. I'm contemplating whether or not to pick it up, because it would essentially be a carbon copy of the Wild ID only with access to Kusari ships.

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"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THE SCIENCE IS LEAKING OUT!"

[VoluptaBox]

Now, I thought you guys had a SRP for using Katanas. Now I see that I was wrong.
I checked it and I only found a SRP for using Outcast technology.
I also checked if the Blood Dragons allowed you to use their equipment, even though the tech chart is red for Wilde-BD relations. I thought it was white at one point, perhaps.
Nothing.
And the box is still red.

That is very interesting...

[Jihadjoe]

how come you don't infect a Dragon gunboat or Dragon destroyer?

Sahaquiel, dragon destroyer, owned by the iseijin. I've used it a fair amount too in the past.

Or some Kusari Explorer for that matter?

I honestly have no idea why we don't have one of these... It could be a fair bit of fun.

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[mjolnir]

Observation:

my post from about 8.5 hours ago which was mostly answer to Smokey's post #96 and that provided evidence of agreements with Exile as AoI founder as well links to Das Wilde faction creation request threads is missing.

:unsure:


But it's only enough to open one's inbox to find more:

QUOTE(Akura @ Mar 15 2011, 04:42 PM) *

No more than two Nomad guns per ship, rest must be Faction 9s or Debs.

ZoI avoids all the houses cept Kusari, rules of engagement prevent pointless slaughter of just about anyone who isn't a threat to the Nomads.

You may not think it, but I do control my faction, Mr Lens.

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