Pirates, terrorists and PvPabuse

[Enojado]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rooPPLtK9pg...feature=related

@ OP


Ghehehehehe.

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[Dane Summers]

I agree with Snak3 - and i know EXACTLY who he is talking about as far as Disco Demographic - i dont think anyone here has got that yet.

There are three types of pirates ive found in my short time Disco RP'ing -

1 - RP Pirates - these guys will camp outta lane, shoot you if you refuse, but generally have a nice length RP with you injecting all kinds of character into their interaction - had a Corsair pirate me outta New London and i swear he had that old-world pirate feel to him - gave him an extra mil because i like the Corsairs.
My blood dragon char is the same way - when me and my friends are all pirating together, we'll interject comms over each other and get into arguments with each other while the trader is just sitting there going "wtf?"

2 - Poor Pirates - these guys will fulfill RP only in the request, and will shoot you if you dont comply - they dont care about making it an experience, they just want money with no hassle, and generally dont care who you are, who your repped with, what your storyline is, what your political leanings are in sirius, ect. most of the time they ask for a mil or two, but sometimes they get stupid and ask for more. usually if its a small amount i pay them just to get on with my day - this isnt an rp experience for me, its a hassle.

3 - Jerkus Pirates - I have dealt with these once, and had friends each have an experience of their own. In my case, said pirate (A DFD tagged Liberty Rogue) blew me up in the middle of my RP, and then had the nerve to say it was my fault over PM's - if my screenshots had worked, i would have reported him - but alas, i had to let the matter go. said experience contributed alot to my character growth tho, so its not all bad. A friend of mine was jumped by two pirates who attacked first before RP, brought his shields down, and hull into a sliver, then demanded money - they blew him up five seconds after the demand, while my friend was still typing. He DID report those guys - no word on whether they got sanctioned. Another friend ran into the Avengers faction, twice, and they pulled the same thing both times - pirating way outside their jurisdiction (dublin, when they were id'd as Hogosha), they swarmed his transport with five guys, demanded his cargo of gold plus a ridiculous sum of money, killed him when he tried to escape - then camped outside of graves station so he couldn't leave again. second time was Leeds, and while they barely have a reason to be there, they still demanded all his cargo, and a ridiculous sum of money, then blew him up when he tried to rp a negotiation.

THOSE guys are the problem - the jerkus variety. They dont care either way, and im really convinced this is how they unwind after their day - sit down in front of their comp, crack open a beer, and blow up people in a vidya game.

Those people are the reason, and this thread rather, that me and my friends created the 9th. but that has to yet to bear fruit. but were gettin there.

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[ProwlerPC]

I can't believe I missed this one. How many a week do you do? Hard to keep up...



It just so happens to be a video game, problem with Disco is some people take it too seriously.

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[maximus995]

this will be my only post here before i completely ignore your thread snake:

"says the molly who shot an outcast for no apparent reason", wasnt pirating your miners, wasnt breaking molly laws, wasnt helping BAF or anything, was just flying around and you lolwhut started shooting me. but yet here he is preeching about "real pirates"

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A Psalm out of the outcast history books.
The dons are our shepherds; I shall not want. They make us live with a cause; They lead us trough the still vasts of space. They restore our souls; They lead us in the paths of righteousness For The Orange Dream. Yai, though we fly through the valley of the shadow of death, we will fear no evil; For the Spirits are with us; Your leadership and Your cardamine, they comfort us. You prepare a safe home for us in the presence of our enemies; Surely goodness and mercy shall follow us All the days of our life; And we will dwell in the house of the outcasts Forever

[Veygaar]

From the examples you've given it seems that most of them won't ever do it again. I can pull an example of US warship shooting an airliner but that doesn't imply that LN Guard ID should be allowed to destroy liners.

Would you like 20 more examples? Or how about some examples of pirates from back in the day, since the ones in Disco are more like that. The Navy's actually FEARED them, because they had better ships/loadouts and were more dangerous than any other enemy Navy when it came to a even fight...

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Veygaar for Admin Moderator 2013!!!

[Marburg]

saw the first post...saw the word 'dickhead' in the first post...skipped ahead to the current page. Saw a couple of whaabulances.

This begs the question: what value does this thread hold & why should it live?

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[Not Espi]

OP, i would point you to the q-q moar thread, but i cant seem to be bothered to look for it. grow a pair and dust off the fact, that you died.

suggesting a lock. 78438 threads like this pop out per year. they all end up the same way.

[Enoch]

2 - Poor Pirates - these guys will fulfill RP only in the request, [...] - they generally dont care who you are, who your repped with, what your storyline is, what your political leanings are in sirius, ect

90% of the pirates in Sirius couldn't care less about all these things. Start to tell the life of your character to a pirate and he will blow you up - He's not interested in biographies, but in money. You seem to forget that it is inRP for a pirate to kill traders and destroy their ships.

3 - Jerkus Pirates -[...] Those people are the reason, and this thread rather, that me and my friends created the 9th. but that has to yet to bear fruit. but were gettin there.

You made your faction so that you can pew the people that piss you off ? Out of RP reasons ? Great:lol:

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[Vogel]

A slightly unrelated discussion, but do tell me...what is reasonable demand?

A demand that doesn't involve more money than I care to acquire. Cargo I don't have. Etc. etc. You also have ones who "count down" to zero, either extremely fast, or they continue to do so after you paid them. The list of BS things I've seen goes on and on, and stems mostly from pirates since, indeed, the Pirate ID is ultimately the "Everyone hates me, I hate everyone" ID that most of these people use.

As expected this topic didn't see a fond response. Unfortunately it's what happens when you claim the server to be "24/7 RP" when in reality it's borderline nonsense and a whole lot of gunfire. There's nothing wrong with pirates, and if I'm in a transport I should expect to be hassled from time to time. But there are players out there who get their rocks off to blowing up defenseless space-whales at every turn for the mere sake of doing so, which makes the prospect of playing a space-whale rather distasteful. Then you realize that the only way to not be a space-whale is to be one for so god-awfully long that you can afford something that won't die in five seconds, and even then capital ships get ganked regardless.

Moral of the story is: don't expect this place to change. Find something you can do that's fun and just do it. If it's no longer fun, or if you can't find anything, then leave it be; there's more constructive things to be doing with your time.

[VoluptaBox]

Vogel: while I agree that a lot of pirates do stupid things, I have to disagree on asking more than the trader makes is unreasonable. And yes, this thread didn't have quite a pleasant reaction, for different reasons. Personally, I don't like more limitations. Again, saddens me to see people do some things, but I won't be the one to tell them not to...never. I'd rather "make him pay" in game, rather than via OORP limitations and sanctions.