It doesn't make you invulnerable, but it makes you much, much tougher than every other gunboat or even cruiser captain. Also, it isn't written down that you have to use a certain number of omnom guns, but hopefully the high ups learned something from this and the consequences of your actions will soon arrive.
' Wrote:It doesn't make you invulnerable, but it makes you much, much tougher than every other gunboat or even cruiser captain. Also, it isn't written down that you have to use a certain number of omnom guns, but hopefully the high ups learned something from this and the consequences of your actions will soon arrive.
This higher-ups talk is pretty amusing, to be honest.
Besides, in the interests of fairness and saving money I've only got a uni 8 on it.
Zealot Wrote:Just go play the game and have fun dammit.
Treewyrm Wrote:all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.
I think it was amusing from boss'es perspective that every time such a seething hatred for anything that gets a specific player or player groups goat immediately the offended parties go into nanny mode.
We do not want this. nanny's running this place because it will behoove you to see how fast the exact same mentality will be turned on -you-.
This maybe all for nothing however because if i were the Wilde in this instance i would kindly thank you for the feedback and acknowledge your input. and leave more important topics to bear besides "you deserve hellfire for killing me with kickass weapons and ships."
I hate running to the "nanny" as much as you do, if not more. Thing is, common sense must be imposed, else it's completely disregarded.
As for your last comment, it totally shows how misinformed you are. I never got killed by a Wilde. I was forced to retreat or dock, but not killed, whereas I did kill a few. Even tonight, I showed up pretty late, when most of the Wildes had run. I just helped kill the last lonely gunboat.
This isn't about "ganks" or "poor roleplay" as there is no such things. I am asking for a reason why you guys can have permission to shoot everything on sight with nice guns whereas everyone else has to stay within tight boundaries. Answer this, and I'll be on my way out.
Before I start, I would also like to make the following perfectly clear.
WE DO NOT HAVE 8 NOMAD TURRET SCORPIONS ANYMORE!!!
That issue was settled a long time ago. If you are wondering why Vladamir said "full nom" in the first screen shot, well that makes two of us because all of our ships are 50% human and 50% nomad.
' Wrote:No there are not. There are, however, rules against insufficient role-play before engagement, and what we see in that screen is exactly that; insufficient role-play prior to an engagement.
What is insufficient roleplay? Did you not read my post? We do not need to give you our life stories when we run into you. Especially if we suspect there is a confrontation coming. Anyone that has been in the position where you are forced to run or fight against a greater number of players understands this.
' Wrote:As was pointed out, there are no rules prohibiting that. However, I would like to see either your guns or your official status removed. Yes I said it. Why? Because, you were given both, as well as in ID which is pretty much the terrorist one with the assumption that your roleplay was excellent and responsible. Yet I don't see how your roleplay and behaviour is different from a lolwhut that pirates in a cruiser because he doesn't know it's bad behaviour. Oh wait, there is a difference: you are well aware of your wrong doings, yet you follow the same path. Basically you were given these very powerful guns on nothing but your word, you promised not to abuse them. Yet I've yet to see a rheinland gunboat, a wilde fighter (saw 2 once upon the time) or even a scorpion with less than 5 nomad turrets (saw 3 of those today).
To sum it up: I don't exactly see what you did to deserve all the privileges that you were given.
Edit: or, better still, give everyone the same privileges. Either works for me.
You know what? I don't need to explain to you why Das Wilde was made a faction. Why? Because it is a faction and we role play ACCORDING TO OUR LORE. That includes shooting a lone Hessian that decided to not run or state his purpose for existence. Contrary to popular belief, we do not go around ganking people for the fun of it.
More over, I find it pretty funny that people seem to only question this faction's existence when some obscure and even shoddy evidence is presented showing us in a bad light. Have you ever looked at the kudos thread or even our feedback thread? How about our message dump, there's plenty of good role play there. If you choose to ignore these instances of good RP, I can't help you. If you want to only look at the bad stuff, then go ahead. I guess Das Wilde is just some s****y faction made up of a bunch of sore losers who have nothing better to do than torment other players with poor role play.
Costin, I'm further insulted that you question the behavior of this group of players. Have you ever actually talked to any of them? Have they ever insulted you OORP?
As you can see, the RM GB has nine weapon slots. How are you supposed to balance that 50/50? I chose to go with four Nomad weapons, but I don't see why five is questionable. It's only one weapon.
The Scorpion has ten weapon slots which allows for five Nomad weapons and five human weapons / equipment. While I have four turrets, it is not impossible to have five Nomad weapons and three Human weapons + a Human CM and CD.
Oh, and while I'm on the subject of player behavior... How would you feel if had to deal with this all the time:
Nonetheless, I don't care much for it --- it's something that comes with the territory. However, take our situation into consideration please. I'm not saying any of us are perfect, sometimes our actions reflect that. But we have never, ever, EVER broken the rules because of our situation. If we get ganked, we might complain about it to one another, but we don't go OORP and yell at people for it, not unless there's a good reason anyways.
EDIT:
' Wrote:I think it was amusing from boss'es perspective that every time such a seething hatred for anything that gets a specific player or player groups goat immediately the offended parties go into nanny mode.
We do not want this. nanny's running this place because it will behoove you to see how fast the exact same mentality will be turned on -you-.
This maybe all for nothing however because if i were the Wilde in this instance i would kindly thank you for the feedback and acknowledge your input. and leave more important topics to bear besides "you deserve hellfire for killing me with kickass weapons and ships."
Look, everyone's feedback is appreciated. However, do not expect any of us to say "Thanks." when you give us a four line post in our feedback thread whining about being killed under perfectly reasonable RP. It's a game, if you can't take getting ganked, killed, CDed, attacked, talked to, etc. then I'm sorry, but Discovery is not for you.
As I was talking over skype with one of your members:
-it's not about the ganks, I don't feel ganked
-it's not about poor roleplay, as it isn't measured by number of words
-it's about the poor attitude around stuff like "no rule forbids having full nom scorpion, so I can have it np"
Also, my point stands: how is your roleplay superior to say mine, poor indie. Why can't I have terrorist id and shoot everything on sight? I would like an answer from you, as well as the above mentioned "high ups", since they gave you the id and they refuse to give it to others.
Edit: to answer your question: I have not been oorply insulted. But I have been accused (on behalf of my faction, not of myself personally as I wasn't even there), of poor roleplay and ganking, right after the case Tony presented: 3 scorps engaging 3 fighters or so with "purge RHA" roleplay. Ironic and hypocritical to say the least.
Today I met 4 of your ships, 3 of them were Scorpions. Why? What is the RP reason behind this, it will be really funny to see how you wrangle for a hilarious justification. Every encounter with your Faction has always included the majority of the ships being Scorpions.
By the way, before you started to shoot me I saw you killed a trader, with the same crap Role-Play. That whole one-liner *Must die* sentence then you go in gunz blazing.
' Wrote:Because it is a faction and we role play ACCORDING TO OUR LORE. That includes shooting a lone Hessian that decided to not run or state his purpose for existence. Contrary to popular belief, we do not go around ganking people for the fun of it.
You started to shoot me 2 seconds after you arrived, not only are you breaking the rules, but you don't even follow your own Faction Status Writeup which states clearly on what terms and conditions you will utilize scorpions (as well as the usage of only half nomad turrets). Both of which you are constantly breaking under the disguised banner of "Role-Play" when we all know you just wanna go on your Terrorist-ID'd characters and shoot everyone on sight with worse RP than stuff seen from powerminers who swap to their Battleships. At least they manage to express one single coherent sentence.
Zealot Wrote:Just go play the game and have fun dammit.
Treewyrm Wrote:all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.
' Wrote:Also, my point stands: how is your roleplay superior to say mine, poor indie. Why can't I have terrorist id and shoot everything on sight? I would like an answer from you, as well as the above mentioned "high ups", since they gave you the id and they refuse to give it to others.
Edit: to answer your question: I have not been oorply insulted. But I have been accused (on behalf of my faction, not of myself personally as I wasn't even there), of poor roleplay and ganking, right after the case Tony presented: 3 scorps engaging 3 fighters or so with "purge RHA" roleplay. Ironic and hypocritical to say the least.
Costin, the Wilde is under no requirement to answer your question. They are an official Wilde faction, thus they are entitled to use the technology developed for their faction. Instead of pestering another group of players about something you disagree with, go bother the admins. As you've said, this group of players hasn't slighted you so why are you raging on them?
@ Lucas
As much as I dislike them using so many Scorpions, they don't need a RP justification for doing it. There is no rule saying they can't and there is no RP that would prevent them from doing it. As for the rest of your crap of a post where you accuse them of breaking serve rules:
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