Gunboats are useless

[Ayatolah]

They suck. I pwned a tridente in a HF last night. I just kept spaming mini/debs, and missiles. All the turrets fell off, and it died.He was turret steering, but in off hours when missiles actually work? No chance. 2 mini's and and a couple debs no more shields. Then missiles pop off turrets,and thruster. BOOM! no more Tridente.
The lack of missiles and shields are death to them. GB turrets just do not got the range needed if you stay at range if your sniping them.

Answer, the 'dente's pilot was awfully bad, was drunken/asleep, or you lied to us and you took down an AFK 'dente:crazy:

GBs are really good now, if you know to use them

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[Ursus]

The lack of missiles and shields are death to them

Missiles only ever worked on VHF and down, anything bigger and it was waste of a turret slot / energy. Even without missiles, just shoot the damn fighters, hard to hit sometimes but they pop like chocolate cherry cordial if you can bump em 3-4 times

I hate it when people say this, but it sounds like you fought a newb

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[ryoken]

I'd like to see that for myself Ryoken. You've any fighter like that in Bretonia?

Only fighter i got in Bret is my BAF.But it has all guns.

Answer, the 'dente's pilot was awfully bad, was drunken/asleep, or you lied to us and you took down an AFK 'dente:crazy:

GBs are really good now, if you know to use them

He was not AFK. If i can find the screens I will give you the name of a Liberator pilot that was there.

I hate it when people say this, but it sounds like you fought a newb

This is probably true. 90% of all GB pilots i see in NY are noobs, and pretty sad. After all they trade for a cap,and jump into the GB as soon as they can.

I do love the implications though that i suck as a fighter pilot. When i bet not 1 of you could name any of my 20 snub chars. With the exception of Ryoken.

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[McNeo]

That's a shame. I'd like to see the impact of missiles on a gunboat first hand.

[ryoken]

That's a shame. I'd like to see the impact of missiles on a gunboat first hand.

Only effective during off hours when player count is below 100. Above 100 missiles are dumb fire, and miss everything. But in off hours they are great to sub-target Thrusters,and weapons after you pop the shields.
I am thinking of trying it with a VHF though now after seeing what a HF can do. Then use those class 10s.

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[Melander]

You're not using them right then.
I recently encountered three bombers that decided to attack my Bottlenose Gunship; All three of them were destroyed, by me alone. Yes, I used turret view, and dodged with it. Three Razors, two Pulses, one missile. If you think that gunboats are useless, then you never gave them time to get better with them. I know that feeling, a few months ago, I thought the bottlenose sucked. I learned how to use it.
So, try to get someone to teach you if you really want to use a gunboat, and you'll see that they are actually quite good.

[Darky]

If you think gunboats are useless you havent met Guerra or Alonso flying one. They're the pro's with gunboats. Also turret steering allows you to take down cruisers as well, it might take some time though. The shield nerf is not much compared to the huge buff given to the gunboat by turret steering/zoom.

[Trogdor]

Sorry for ignorance but what is turret steering/zoom?

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[Melander]

Sorry for ignorance but what is turret steering/zoom?

Well, I really hope you know that when you press the "H" key in game, it will go into turret view. Recently it's been made so that you can zoom out "Alt-then whatever your zoom out key is" AND that you can set keys as directions, so you can move while in the view. The best keys are generally "j" as left, "L" as right, and for me "I" is up and "K" is down. This made dodging and shooting at the same time possible. It's useless with fighters and bombers, but amazing for caps. Example: You have three bombers on your back. As you are dodging their SNAC's, you are also shooting at them, making you take less damage because you can dodge and they are under fire, and deal more damage because you can shoot them. So it is important, and you should learn to use it.

[Not Espi]

You just suck at it.