=CYLON= Clan

[Lohingren]

@Drake:well pesonally i don't really see how you can find reading the leet speak that hard i can read it pretty much as well as normal english. as for it not sounding like a robot, what you expect em to do *buzzy stupid stereotypical robot voice* we are the cylons blah blah blah *ditto*

might aswell call em the dr who clan and make em talk like darleks or however you spell the name

and good luck typing in proper binary through system then you would have yourself one hellova time trying to understand what they saying

personally i think the leet is the best way they could rp a robot without making it to human like

text based format also would work i suppose


just my tuppens worth

Lohingren Out

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Reapers of Sirius Database

[RGD]

Yup. The point is not to look at the numbers and letters, but to look at the whole thing together;)

It's pretty faster, thrust me on that.

[Drake]

Excuse me? Are you saying that if an important message was intercepted in a WW II, and could not be dealt with in 5 minutes, you would ignore it (assuming you are the one working on decoding)? Riiiiight. If it is that hard for you, then ignore it, but not just that, be sure to shoot us because of that. It will not be pvp whoring, i'm certain you would have a great RP background story behind it. Riiiight.

Now, please, be more constructive. If you don't have a suggestion, then don't spit on other's work. I don't know who you are, and as far as i'm concerned you may be the most respected member of this forum, i wouldn't care. You'r opinion about this factions existance is allready written, and i don't really think you are here to help us survive, are you? Maybe just to bury us, or at least try.

Do you realy think i would use such speech while I am fighting, or someone else is near me? Double the time you need to read that, that's how long it takes me to write it. And if you haven't noticed, i will have to quote myself :
Now, if you can't remember, or even try to remember 4,5 phrases, then it is your problem.
I will sound stupid to you, i will sound like an idiot to you, because i will not stop using that kind of RP-ing untill you give me the real reasons to do that. And when you give me the real reasons to do that, then give me the other way to RP it. If you can't, i will have to quote OsoRojo :

Using leetspeak isn't RPing. It in no way suggests that you are a robot or sounds like a robot. It makes you sound like a idiot 12-year-old '|-|/\><0R'. It confuses people in game, many people can't make sense of it, especially if English isn't their first language. It suggests to other new players who might not be familiar with your 'RP' that leetspeak is acceptable on this server, which means they'll either start using it to act '|33+', or it'll give them a bad opinion of a supposedly 'RP server' that allows players to act like they're playing Counterstrike.

Also,

3.3 All messages in chat must be in understandable English, unless the chat is private and both members know the language being used.

Leetspeak is not understandable English, not for everyone.

[Juan_Arquero]

Yup. The point is not to look at the numbers and letters, but to look at the whole thing together;)

It's pretty faster, thrust me on that.

Underscore added to quote to point out misspelling.:nono:

OK. I'll thrust a Cylon as far as I can trow a Cylon.:crazy:

[RGD]

@Juan_Arquero - Not really important, i make a lot of misspelings, and i love thrusters :angry: Leave Grammar (even if you are a Grammar Nazi) and Hogosha/Yakuza thing for another thread plz:)

@Drake - And now, here we go again. So, is it allowed for people to use simple phrases from other languages? I belive so. Actualy, many times i have seen Gaians speaking Scotch like. Or Kusari players that are using phrases from Japaneese language, like, Name-San, Domo Arigato etc. Is that understandable english? Don't think so. It is the part of RP. And for the new players, hell, they won't even know what real RP is untill they visit the forum. And when they do, they will know that is a Cylon style of RP-ing. Now, i really think i am not a bad guy here for trying, and i would like to hear other oppinions from other people.
We are not using, as you said, "|-|/\><0R" thing, that would really look idiotic. But just a bunch of numbers and letters, i don't think it is. It fits even with our names. Anyway, you always have the alternative of ignoring. And i don't see any alternative for our speech here, except what Unit-sk855 said. I will consult with other cylons about that proposition, but i still think that combination of numbers and letters fits better for us, simply because it is far more logical for humanoids to translate it for themselves, then us translating it for them. For now, Drake and Equinox are against, and Xoria (if i am correct, he mentioned brilliant RP-ing from one of the cylons, i belive he was refering to this), Skyelius (who answered ingame in more then great RP manner) and Zapp are ok with the idea, and i am awaiting more oppinions on this subject.

Edit : Forgot Lohingren, he said it's not such a bad thing as well.

[Drake]

@Juan_Arquero - Not really important, i make a lot of misspelings, and i love thrusters :angry: Leave Grammar (even if you are a Grammar Nazi) and Hogosha/Yakuza thing for another thread plz:)

@Drake - And now, here we go again. So, is it allowed for people to use simple phrases from other languages? I belive so. Actualy, many times i have seen Gaians speaking Scotch like. Or Kusari players that are using phrases from Japaneese language, like, Name-San, Domo Arigato etc. Is that understandable english? Don't think so. It is the part of RP. And for the new players, hell, they won't even know what real RP is untill they visit the forum. And when they do, they will know that is a Cylon style of RP-ing. Now, i really think i am not a bad guy here for trying, and i would like to hear other oppinions from other people.
We are not using, as you said, "|-|/\><0R" thing, that would really look idiotic. But just a bunch of numbers and letters, i don't think it is. It fits even with our names. Anyway, you always have the alternative of ignoring. And i don't see any alternative for our speech here, except what Unit-sk855 said. I will consult with other cylons about that proposition, but i still think that combination of numbers and letters fits better for us, simply because it is far more logical for humanoids to translate it for themselves, then us translating it for them. For now, Drake and Equinox are against, and Xoria (if i am correct, he mentioned brilliant RP-ing from one of the cylons, i belive he was refering to this), Skyelius (who answered ingame in more then great RP manner) and Zapp are ok with the idea, and i am awaiting more oppinions on this subject.

Using an occasional word or slang from another language or dialect is different than completely bastardizing the alphanumerical system.

Please explain how replacing some letters with vaguely similar numbers, when the text-based messages are really supposed to be considered radio speech, is supposed to make it seem like you're robots? Computers don't even type like that... They're either in binary or a written language. Only humans use leetspeak. So, please, explain why someone who sees 'h3||0' (or whatever, I don't write this crap) is supposed to believe that it sounds electronic or robotic?

If anything, it should be treated like people who says 'omg' or 'pvp' in system chat... "What the heck do you mean, pee vee pee? You mad?"

[Unit-sk855]

Mixed reactions i say again. Some people here call themselves grammar nazi's for a reason.

It would be best not to argue about the use of it, but instead accept that some people will like it, others will dislike it. There are no definable black or white areas unless an admin says no to using it. I can totally see that happening too.

Now the rule about english is in place so people can understand people universally on the server. 13375p34k 15 n07 h4rd t0 r34d unless you take it to the extremes of |_|51|\|6 0|\||_y 137355 4|\||> |\||_||\/|13355.

h4v1ng 7h3 t3xt b3 0f a s1mi1ar f4shi0n to n0rm4l tex7 sh0uldn7 b3 th4t hard t0 re4d..

Its Arldy been prvoen taht the hmuan barin can raed mxied up wodrs.

So it being hard to read, or making one look like an idiot is personal preference being placed over a solid reason for not having it.

Now pointing out that while it may emulate robotic speech, that there are no leet speaking robots in existance should warrant the denial of its use. The cylons could speak, they did speak, they had a metalic ring to their voice and used simple phrases.

I played a metal dragon in a chat rp once that sounded like soundwave from first generation transformers.

***This is how he sounded in the game.***
***The astrics represented the resonating metal sound***
***It worked well enough to separate my speech from something else***
***And it was fast enough for combat***

or just a computer type line

RGD-983-AS::\\ By your command.

Freelancer automatically puts in your name, and the first colon. You throw in this ":\\" before each message and it looks like a computer prompt.


*Cough* edit:

And my name btw is not leet speak. Its an anachronism for something that ive long forgotten. It was a robot characters name and number. Just before that gets thrown out there XD

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*Wilson shows off his ham sandwich* - Armory.003
*mark placed on Unit-sk855's forehead* - Head hitting the desk as of reading the above

[RGD]

I have seen a nomad RP-ing with //Telepathy - wordswordswords - Telepathy//, and i don't think it's a radio chat. Our combination is only suposed to represent coded talk, not really to be one. Even if it's on a radio. I agree with a pvp, lol, smile etc things, totaly out of rp, but i don't agree with this. I personaly think it would be rather stupid to say ***Coded, pretend you don't understand right away***speachspeachspeach***Coded, start uncoding it*** thing. It would be like pm-ing someone : "Hey, i'm going to rp now, let's RP!"

As i said, waiting for other oppinions, you'r remarks have been noticed, and will be considered.

[Drake]

I have seen a nomad RP-ing with //Telepathy - wordswordswords - Telepathy//, and i don't think it's a radio chat. Our combination is only suposed to represent coded talk, not really to be one. Even if it's on a radio. I agree with a pvp, lol, smile etc things, totaly out of rp, but i don't agree with this. I personaly think it would be rather stupid to say ***Coded, pretend you don't understand right away***speachspeachspeach***Coded, start uncoding it*** thing. It would be like pm-ing someone : "Hey, i'm going to rp now, let's RP!"

As i said, waiting for other oppinions, you'r remarks have been noticed, and will be considered.

Okay, wanting your speech to not be easily read by other people is NOT a point in your favour. System chat is supposed to be EASY for any English-speaking person to understand at a glance. If you're supposedly using code, put it in private chat.

This statement of yours alone is, I believe, enough to get this idea shot down.

[RGD]

Okay, wanting your speech to not be easily read by other people is NOT a point in your favour. System chat is supposed to be EASY for any English-speaking person to understand at a glance. If you're supposedly using code, put it in private chat.

This statement of yours alone is, I believe, enough to get this idea shot down.

I am not going to argue any more. Done with you. No point. Conservative. Capish? English understandable? Easy?

Try being constructive, like Unit-sk855, and not "Oh that's rubish oh oh (ignoring all that you have written), now my eyes hurt, i'm gonna make me some tea" etc.