The Mollys + Post #109.

[chopper]

Jack, first thing first, Cyril.O'Reily shooting at you and dying to IMG|Zeta was not a reason to put you to hostile. You are the one exaggerating in this case, since hostilities started a lot before. [M] can confirm this.

Second thing, it was your own fault to insist on bringing MMC to those peace talks. I don't want to step on their toes, but seriously Jack, are you going to tell me that the MMC behaved like a Molly faction? Why not just slapping IMG ID on their ships. They even stood next to your ships, instead of next to Molly ones, in those peace talks. Not to mention Quinn talking rubbish about how it's perfectly normal that Hood doesn't allow Mollys to dock, while he's completely ignorant to the fact your ships were allowed to dock on Arranmore. If you want to consult lore on this one, Hood is a completely free zone for everyone who wants to dock on it. It's like a Freeport. MMC were claiming they will cooperate with IMG no matter what happens. What's their point being in those peace talks then? They just provoked every single Molly in that situation. At one point Quinn even claimed he's a bigger Molly then I am because he's a billionaire, and I'm poor. What the hell?

Third thing. Who's fault is all this? Everyone's. Here's how the events developed in the past month.

- O'Reilys attacked a indie IMG and destroyed it after he refused to pay and threatened with Reavers.

- Henderson called O'Reilys to talk with them, which they accepted. He was pissed off because we destroyed an IMG vessel, however, when we have given evidence about that vessel's behavior, Jack washed hands saying he's not responsible for non-core vessels. Why did we talk in the first place than, Jack? Are you responsible for them only when you need it, and when they claim you're sending the Reavers than they become 'indies'. In those talks IMG gunboat opened fire on Cyril.O'Reily because he opened fire on a Bowex.

- Soon after, some talks started on O'Reilys - IMG. We threatened each other, and after some harsh words - you Jack decided O'Reilys are hostile from that point on. I want to remind you that we did not destroy a single IMG vessel up to that point, and as I told you personally, we started destroying IMG only some 4 days ago.

- IMG hired Reavers, which is of course a secret deal, but O'Reilys had some ingame knowledge about this (read above) and used this fact to get the other Mollys on their side. Other Mollys were later enlightened when they personally saw IMG weaponry on Silver.Reaver's ship, as well as some Reavers undocking from Hood. I disagree it's metagaming, but we already talked about it.

- I talked to IMG|Miles.Green in a Nyx close to Hood, challenged him to a race, stuff like that. At one point he cruised away towards Essex, and I followed hoping he'd dock there. However, he did not, and some Pirate ID'd Sabre started chasing him in order to shoot him. I hopped in, CD'd the Sabre so the Nyx could get away and then destroyed it, effectively saving one of your pilots. (or at least making things easier for him).

- Some more forum RP and threatening.

- [M]Bo.Littl, some MMC, and me fought off some Bretonians and Mercenaries around Arranmore. BHG| undocked from Hood, engaged us, suffered, then docked back. This is important because you allow Mercenaries to base attacks on Mollys from Hood, yet you don't allow Mollys to dock on it. So, basically, friends can't dock, but neutrals can. Doesn't make much sense to me.

- IMG gunboats chasing me whole god damn day around Dublin (I would like to repeat myself here that we did not destroy a single IMG| vessel up to that point, and only destroyed the IMG indie I already mentioned in the start). IMG were claiming all the time that I am not so tough now as I am against Hegemons. When I asked which Hegemon I destroyed, I got nothing but silence.

- I destroyed IMG|Gamma-1, one of your Hegemons that was actually in Arranmore field, even if you claimed you stopped your operations in Arranmore field. So this is an interesting part. I also gave him an option to pay a fine and leave the field, he arrogantly responded he'll fulfill 1/2 of my request, and started cruise engines. Then he died.

- IMG brought a gunboat fleet to Arranmore field, in order to arrest me. There was some shooting, [M] didn't engage IMG, IMG didn't engage [M], I killed one IMG, Reaver killed one [M], Hone killed some AI's. Fun event, no big deal, except that it was a siege of Arranmore pretty much. I don't mind.
At this point we all insisted [M] should do something about it, and pick a side. Even you said so Jack, you told me you hoped they'd intervene.

- Then this. Peace talks with MMC provoking every Molly with their ignorance towards any treaty that could benefit all Mollys. I joined in late, so I didn't really catch all that was being said. But here are some parts.

[27.06.2011 18:32:19] =MMC=Quinn: Laddy i'm a billionaire fer workin wid tha IMG son, what are ye?
[27.06.2011 18:32:22] =MMC=Quinn: Ah ye, New.
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[27.06.2011 18:33:55] =MMC=Quinn: Listen Henderson me lad, if tings dun work out we'll supply gold ore teh Hood
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[27.06.2011 18:36:55] =MMC=Quinn: Aye but thas rules for fools like yer and fools like us.. We profit from IMG as deh IMG profit from us.
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[27.06.2011 18:37:17] [M]-Bloody.Hangover: We demand free access to the Hood, inforce higher taxation on your greedy miners.
[27.06.2011 18:37:50] =MMC=Quinn: Old the boat lad, free access yet ye wont let free access teh tha Arranmore, slighlty one sided contract lad.
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MMC behaved like IMG, especially with a point about 'one sided deal'. IMG was allowed to dock on Arranmore, Mollys weren't allowed to dock on Hood. Wasn't that a bit one sided, Quin? Yet you signed that treaty.
I understand MMC are miners and I understand they benefit from deals with IMG. Problem is, you are making a criminal organisation to a mining guild. I don't want to earn my money by shooting rocks, I want to people to pay me. That's why MMC-IMG treaty is void.


Anyway, I wanted to point out that IMG behaved much more aggressively in this whole situation than even O'Reilys did. It was your faction, Jack, that actually broke the treaty. As for your arrest attempt, what would you do if [M] came in full force to Hood and tried to arrest an IMG Hegemon that stole the gold from our field?

Ignoring the events and leaving an area because you don't want to handle the situation is wrong.
I understand the effort you invested in Dublin, I understand you want as many neutral contracts as possible - for safer mining and exporting, but sometimes you have to deal with situations like this.
Especially because you were one of the lead roles in these events, along with O'Reilys. Quitting now just tells me things went unplanned for you, and so you refuse to deal with the situation. Well guess what, I didn't plan on your 3 gunboats and 2 nyxes shooting me around Arranmore either. I had to dodge like crazy trough the mine field, and yet I didn't throw my hat and said 'This is unfair, I'm gonna move to Sigmas!'.

You have to realize that you, primitive and me were the ones that shaped these events. You were an obvious part, you were even the trigger to all hostilities, since it all started with you threatening us over at Hood for shooting your indie miner. Raging on [M] for picking a side is completely wrong.
I agree there shouldn't be a long term war, but a bit of hostilities have to happen in order to make a new treaty.

I urge everyone to chill a bit. There is nothing wrong going on here. Mollys are a terrorist organisation, they are also criminals, and they maybe have some miners but they are a minority. They don't want to be fooled by a mining guild, they want to show who's the boss. And in Dublin, Mollys are the bosses. Not you Jack.
Please allow Mollys to become what they should become, a criminal organisation that wants to fight Queen's power. This might be a first step towards realizing just how tough they are.
And don't get me wrong, I put that order of events just to show you're equally to blame as me. I enjoyed every one of those, and I thought it was enjoyable for you too.
However, ragequitting like this was not something I expected from a great official faction. Please deal with it in game.
Would you leave the Taus if Kusari announced hostilities to you? I don't think so.

BIG EDIT:

Since I've seen some of Jack's invalid points, I decided to edit my post and put some rumors from IMG bases here.
Rumors are vanilla, so no point in discussing the 'lore' anymore.



Yep. That one is from Hood. You are asking to get clipped.



Look at that! Mollys actually smuggle gold. I guess they can survive without IMG after all. Also Hood.



So much about Mollys. Yeah, it's actually their lore to kill you if you trick them Jack. You are actually lucky you get to bring those supplies which you never bring.



Same story here. Both are from Hood.

And the most important one for the discussion about Hood docking rights



From Cardiff mining facility, IMG base in Cambridge.

I suppose that settles the 'lore' discussion.

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