Keepers Beta Test 1

[Treewyrm]

I don't think he was referring to the Lost Battlestar, but whatever. Ill take your example, and be aggressive with my arguments too.

What else do we have on the far eastern side of Delta but Lost Battlestar? Only nebula, asteroids, barren planets with no life on them.

I read your part on Outcasts and Corsairs allying temporarily, or even just fighting the nomads on their own. Corsairs actually have their own station in Delta and in the RP situation, the Corsairs provide military support to the Order since the end of the nomad wars. So I haven't got a clue where you got the idea of "you have to join the Order to fight us". Outcasts, I agree, shouldn't be there. The place is swarming with Corsairs, with not a single Outcast NPC in the system or the systems one jump from it. Or even two jumps?. So the "Outcasts allying with Corsairs" situation shouldn't happen in the first place.

For now, my opinion stands along with that of my fellow Elders that adequate protection for the Zoners and the Order will be stationed on Yaren for response against Keeper forces. There are many aims of this, but one is to secure Delta from the nomads, namely the Keepers. Even bounty hunters can station there, as there are BH Destroyer patrols in that system. Mostly, they are shooting Corsair Osiris patrols....

I don't have problem with Corsairs in Delta at all, you have small outpost here. So I think you have misunderstood me or read something that isn't there. Defend Yaren, it perfectly fits. I was talking about Outcasts allying with Corsairs.

Regarding the "saviors of humanity". Yes, it's the role of Order primarily, they won the war against Nomads in the first place and it's their rightful title. And that's why I put "fight back" in there for the purpose. Corsairs are allied with Order now, that is much true, but where their primary objectives lie? Has three nomads became a top of the list? This is my point here actually. "Join the Order" was about if you want to go real offensive, it makes sense because that's what Order are. I put it because I think the Order now has something real to do, fight against their direct enemies, so I would like to see more Order players you see.

Personally I'm looking forward seeing combat with Order and Corsairs.

So let's go together along on that. There is much to come and much to do for all of us.

Actually, nomads being a hostile and very dangerous enemy to all humans means that humans do band together to fight them collectively. People don't kill Liberty, because they aren't a threat to the existence of the human race. In fact, there are many films and games that depict humans from all over the world banding together against an unknown and alien threat. Independence day and Wing commander are two off the top of my head. Its not role play abuse, especially when it is used as a selling point in films, in which the actors have a deeper role play element than we could have here. I do not agree with your point of view on that particular subject and have yet to be convinced...

My point is that bandwagon doesn't go very well when there are only one-two nomad ships in the area. Hardly a grave threat to humanity. Yet, like I said, people jump out of their pants. Why? The reason is too obvious not to be seen directly. You see that as well.

Plus, in a reference to mentioned above, there was much bickering between allies even. It's only in very cheap action movies you can see everyone banding together without a single problem on the first occasion. But that doesn't happen in anything more serious, and I tend to believe that Discovery is far more than that with conspiracies, betrayal, drama, action, friends turning enemies and vice versa.

That's why I'm saying that alliances should have more thought and story behind them, not just suddenly grouping in, but actual and lengthy roleplay.