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Offline Dab
10-10-2011, 10:28 PM,
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' Wrote:Im really a terrible Zoner player. :laugh:
I disagree. You've become a terrible hippy (which is what your character was prior to becoming admin, by your description of him). Currently you've become one of those stubborn Zoners, which is one aspect of what makes up the Zoners. Way I see it, there are three types;
1.) The Apathetics - The ones who go on about their business on their ship, or only deal with their own Freeport and do so in a very conflict-avoiding manner so they can go back to doing stuff by themselves again. - Zelot plays this type, OSI do generally as well.
2.) The Stubborn Zoners - The ones who cling to their Freeport and their freedom and push back, sometimes violently, when it's threatened. - This is generally what you, the Omicroners, and the TAZ do, though all on varying degrees. TAZ are also partly apathetic.
3.) The Sooth-Sayers - The ones who like to talk and like to have people listen to them talk. They prefer to talk, sometimes doing so for long periods of time until the opposing side loses interest when there isn't a possibility of a diplomatic solution both sides can agree to (I've used this tactic against the QCP when Blunt led it, to great effect). Generally the Zoners who subscribe to this philosophy do a lot of forum work and also generally have a good ability to phrase their words in the manner that best suits the discussion. - I subscribed to this philosophy when I played as a Zoner, as did a lot of other independent Zoners. You can see a lot of this used in the old Council of Zoners thread. (As well as good examples of the three different sides shown in contrast to each other.) OSI partly subscribe to this as well, and TAZ have in the past.

Note on the three factions; This is simply my view of how you react when presented with various situations. You may disagree on my take of your faction.

' Wrote:Prior to FP1, my character of Dane was a pretty interesting and cool guy - all he did was cruise around in his mobile house, sing songs, play guitar, and try and talk people out of killing each other.
Like I said; He was a hippy.

' Wrote:Since taking over FP1, ive come to the conclusion that rp of said character has become so warped, and my opinions on the zoner's as a whole, that i can see where im at war between the "old" way of the character (which i liked a lot more) and the "new" way, which is...completely different. Those who knew how Dane was in the past know what im talking about.
There is nothing wrong with your character having become warped. Because real people get warped very often when put in these kind of situations. Our environment shapes our actions and beliefs. Many real people also change over their lifetime several times. And many look back into their past and like or dislike the way they were compared to the way they are.

' Wrote:Truth of it is, I dont run a Freeport the way it should be run.
There is no way a Freeport "should" be run. There is only running it.

' Wrote:I honestly cant stomach being submissive, kissing butt to factions who are jerks, and then making under the table deals, hoping no one finds out.
All three types of Zoners usually can't either. You're not bad, different, or anything for feeling that way. In fact, you're rather normal. Different people respond in different ways however. Tip when doing politics as a Zoner, grand-standing and posturing will never make you win. You are the underdog, and your opponents usually are stronger and have more authority. (Bretonia, Rheinland, Liberty, Corsairs). Your best option is to undermine the other sides credibility, undermine their authority, and undermine their support from the other large groups. If, for example, you were able to get Liberty disagree with Bretonia's actions, Bretonia would be under a lot of pressure. Liberty is their biggest supporter, in politics, their economy, and in military goods. Losing them would be a major blow and take Bretonia down a notch. I have taken a lot of effort to strengthen public support for Bretonia's actions and our relationship with Liberty for just this reason. Back when I was a Zoner and dealing with Freeport 1, via the Council rather than as administrator, I employed the same tactics I just presented to you. I'm fairly sure Alvin prefers me on BAF's side this time.:laugh:Both times I've dealt with FP1, I was on different sides, but had been a member of both factions, BAF and Zoners. It helps to know thy enemy. You might even want to think about making a lawful Bretonian character. Gateway would fit you well.

' Wrote:Mostly because i really hate everyone I deal with
At first I was like D: - Then I was like:(

' Wrote:I am on a crusade tho. I want at least one freeport to go back to the way a freeport should be - everyone welcome, everyone respects the peace - rivals can discuss differences, or even hurl insults at each - and its all in good fun. No one wants that, and that makes me both angry and bitter, so, to hell with it - people will do what I say, or i blow you up.
Back to the way it should be, or back to the way it was? What you described may fit the former, Freeports have never been like that. Not since 2005.

' Wrote:So if any of you thought my running of FP1 was retarded and dakun'esque - i guess i really cba to care about that anymore either.
I don't think you come close to Dakun-esque, no worries there. Reaching that level is reserved for the truly disturbed.

' Wrote:It would be nice if people respected Zoner laws around the Freeports, but at least in the FP1-case that isn't very easy to enforce. One will always get pissed about it and start rolling in the big ships.
For the houses, Freeports are a security risk, that is the biggest problem with FP1. It's use as a "free"port, useable by pirates and terrorists, is a problem for Bretonia, that's why we try to do everything we can to make that policy unfavorable.

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