' Wrote:I do have one question for you though, how did OSI, TAZ and the Omicroners see it if they can not use third party info like you stated?
Read up on OSI. You'll find our headquarters is in a system that is claimed by Liberty (though they have no presence there). As for TAZ and the Omicroners. You'll have to ask them, I don't speak for those factions.
' Wrote:Ok first off Daedric.
You keep telling me what I missed and what I don't understand.
Bad news there, I do understand the difference between civilian and citizen.
You are arguing here to a wall because I do not disagree with Zoners being able to see that message as civilians within houses, same as I do not disagree by those terms on the Coalition or Colonial Remnant seeing it as civilians within houses.
So you can keep posting these lines but you are still trying to point out a difference where there is none.
Skullz you seem to have a big list of metagamers there, but half of your list you name purely InRP responses.
I believe Bretonia has a right to get their nickers in a knot over the slightest thing if they choose, and in a lot of ways goes with their background.
Arthur asked you to stop spreading around false information due to listing the other IC member as representing IC while I believe he was trying to represent Bretonia, correct me if I am wrong Arthur.
Just because he might be wrong, or lying, or overly hostile does not mean he is metagaming.
I am sorry this did not work out for you, better luck next time.
Anyway, sorry for taking up so much space, I will get out of your thread now.
It didn't appear you did from reading your posts. I'm not arguing with a wall. I'm merely voicing my opinion that unlike most of the people posting in this thread; I feel both sides royally screwed up in that Summit thread. Not just Skullz. I pointed out three post where meta-gaming happened, yet those points were ignored and people continue to rail against Skullz.
The difference between the CR an SCRA and Zoners regarding the houses is simple. Zoners have bases inside house space, inside Liberty and inside Bretonia (what Bretonia claims). Zoners even have a seat on Bretonia's legislation. This gives them the ability to see and respond to said message as it was directly aimed at them. The CR and SCRA don't have any bases within house space. They'd have to get the message in passing.
As Skullz has admitted it was aimed at any civilian inside house space (passing or not) I agree that both of those could have seen it and responded.
Skullz. Quit accusing people of meta gaming. I read the entire thread twice (god help me). The only instances of meta gaming were the ones I listed. They were not intentional. They were not done to ruin the thread.
The failure of the summit is directly linked to how Kim Allen went about handling all of it. I don't think it was bad role play. Just role play. I do think that perhaps your OSC CEO dude should have came in and apologized for Kim's miss handling of the situation and taken care of business.
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