• Home
  • Index
  • Search
  • Download
  • Server Rules
  • House Roleplay Laws
  • Player Utilities
  • Player Help
  • Forum Utilities
  • Returning Player?
  • Toggle Sidebar
Interactive Nav-Map
Interactive DarkMap
Tutorials
New Wiki
ID reference
Restart reference
Players Online
Player Activity
Faction Activity
Player Base Status
Discord Help Channel
DarkStat
Server public configs
POB Administration
Missing Powerplant
Stuck in Connecticut
Account Banned
Lost Ship/Account
POB Restoration
Disconnected
Member List
Forum Stats
Show Team
View New Posts
View Today's Posts
Calendar
Help
Archive Mode




Hi there Guest,  
Existing user?   Sign in    Create account
Login
Username:
Password: Lost Password?
 
  Discovery Gaming Community Discovery Development Discovery Mod General Discussion
« Previous 1 … 231 232 233 234 235 … 547 Next »
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats.

Server Time (24h)

Players Online

Active Events - Scoreboard

Latest activity

Poll: Should gunboats and bombers have thier Cruise Disruptors Removed?
You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
Yes. Pls explain
15.12%
13 15.12%
No. Pls explain
68.60%
59 68.60%
I l!k3s s@ying "2m!l_or_D!3 (pls delete my account)
16.28%
14 16.28%
Total 86 vote(s) 100%
* You voted for this item. [Show Results]

What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats.
Offline Jinx
12-03-2011, 02:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-03-2011, 02:41 PM by Jinx.)
#28
skipasmiður
Posts: 7,685
Threads: 313
Joined: Sep 2007

bombers having the option of cd/torp or double torp is kind of a heritage of the old days - when there was the "nova cannon"

for those who may not remember

- the nova cannon was what the SNAC is today... it inflicted 48.000 damage ( or something like that ) - and used up ~45% of a bombers powerplant ( "a bombers powerplant" = either GMG bomber or RH bomber - cause these were the only 2 )

- the choice of the bomberplayer was to either use dual novas for serious anti-cap or CD / torp ... usually used for singleplayer piracy or support roles - cause a bomber with just one nova wouldn t be able to sustain damage on a battleships shields.

why was it revised?

- cause the setup of a dual heavy weapon enabled good players to insta-kill in just one single pass - hence, the SNAC was introduced - more damage, higher energy costs - but no ability to do a double hit in one pass. ( and henceforth - the bombers were revised so that this tactic wouldn t be possible ( or at least easy ))

now - what happens when we take the CD off a bomber?

- bombers won t be able to be used in "singleplayer" ... you ll need at least ONE more player to put the bomber to its full use.
- a bomberswarm against a battleship or even a cruiser will NOT win ( but it might force the capital ship to retreat )
- a bomber vs. a gunboat will be at a severe disadvantage ... IF the bomber decides to actually fight the gunboat.


most of those points might sound beneficial - from the point of view that it is not meant to be a singleplayer game anyway - and we are forcing other players with other ships into multiplayer, too ( escorts ).

it does however leave the question if that is an overall beneficial thing.

unless one is blind - the idea that each ship can have escorts that actually requires them - is at the very least ... naive.

battleships and traders show that escorts do not quite work. - and while the bomber would "just" need someone with a CD - it might also mean that this someones roleplay and gameplay might be "too much reduced" to just being a mobile CD. ( leaves the question - who wishes to be a mobile CD )

it might also mean that the tactical loss of that one mobile CD can turn the tide of battle- no matter how much it would have been in favour of the bombers. - 10 bombers vs. 1 battleship will still not win... if the mobile CD has gone down.



we have a nice example of such "specialized ships" when we look at the repair ship. - having one - and protecting one can turn a weaker side into a winning side. - it remains to see if actually roleplaying a repair ship is fun though.

also - if bombers become too much of a team efford - but rather useless alone - they might become the tools of "only groups of players" - which means that you won t pick up the random indie anymore when you need him ( and many fights that happen spontanously require these random individuals )



much of disco is an inter-dependable chain. - take out one factor - and the rest crumbles.


edit:

it appears hard to have a serious discussion about hot-topics these days - you get the typical one-liners and the unreflected comments.

[Image: just_a_signature_by_sjrarj-d63yjsx.png]
Shipdesigns made for DiscoveryGC
Reply  


Messages In This Thread
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by joojoo1975 - 12-01-2011, 07:14 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by jammi - 12-01-2011, 07:17 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Fat.Igor - 12-01-2011, 07:19 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by joojoo1975 - 12-01-2011, 07:20 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Matthews - 12-01-2011, 07:23 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Valinor - 12-01-2011, 07:44 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Torch Rose - 12-01-2011, 07:51 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Anomander - 12-01-2011, 07:55 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Dab - 12-01-2011, 08:01 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by joojoo1975 - 12-01-2011, 08:02 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Ursus - 12-01-2011, 08:05 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Sava - 12-01-2011, 08:06 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by JayDee Kasane - 12-02-2011, 06:54 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by schlurbi - 12-02-2011, 07:00 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Veygaar - 12-02-2011, 07:29 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Dusty Lens - 12-03-2011, 01:51 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Veygaar - 12-03-2011, 03:08 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by dodike - 12-03-2011, 03:48 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by joojoo1975 - 12-03-2011, 09:06 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Tachyon - 12-03-2011, 10:42 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Jamez - 12-03-2011, 11:57 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Hidamari - 12-03-2011, 12:13 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Pancakes - 12-03-2011, 12:47 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Not Espi - 12-03-2011, 01:50 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by AshHill07 - 12-03-2011, 02:06 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Zeb Harley - 12-03-2011, 02:10 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Helo - 12-03-2011, 02:14 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Jinx - 12-03-2011, 02:20 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Ninefour - 12-03-2011, 02:37 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Xenosaga - 12-03-2011, 02:46 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by jakub963 - 12-03-2011, 02:47 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Lonely_Ghost - 12-03-2011, 03:45 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Jinx - 12-03-2011, 03:56 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Ursus - 12-03-2011, 04:03 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Lonely_Ghost - 12-03-2011, 06:13 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by dodike - 12-03-2011, 06:32 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Wafellini - 12-03-2011, 07:26 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Pinko - 12-03-2011, 07:28 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by dodike - 12-03-2011, 07:39 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Govedo13 - 12-03-2011, 08:54 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by joojoo1975 - 12-03-2011, 09:02 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by dodike - 12-03-2011, 09:12 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by schlurbi - 12-03-2011, 09:36 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Veygaar - 12-03-2011, 09:53 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by joojoo1975 - 12-03-2011, 10:24 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Regious Tuk'Cone - 12-03-2011, 11:02 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Antonio - 12-05-2011, 07:58 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Omicron - 12-06-2011, 02:22 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by jammi - 12-06-2011, 02:31 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by dodike - 12-06-2011, 02:51 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Jamez - 12-06-2011, 03:17 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Ursus - 12-06-2011, 03:20 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Gemini893 - 12-13-2011, 08:10 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Govedo13 - 12-13-2011, 08:41 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by r3vange - 12-13-2011, 08:46 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Pancakes - 12-13-2011, 09:45 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Tachyon - 12-13-2011, 10:15 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by AeternusDoleo - 12-14-2011, 02:34 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Jansen - 12-14-2011, 03:27 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Unseelie - 12-14-2011, 06:36 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by ... kur nubėgo? - 12-15-2011, 01:53 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Seylah - 12-16-2011, 05:37 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Xenosaga - 12-17-2011, 08:05 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by dodike - 12-17-2011, 05:29 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Tachyon - 12-17-2011, 06:29 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Veygaar - 12-19-2011, 03:05 AM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by Tachyon - 12-19-2011, 10:18 PM
What do you think about CD's and Bombers and Gunboats. - by themikeruler - 12-20-2011, 10:11 AM

  • View a Printable Version
  • Subscribe to this thread


Users browsing this thread:
1 Guest(s)



Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2026 MyBB Group. Theme © 2014 iAndrew & DiscoveryGC
  • Contact Us
  •  Lite mode
Linear Mode
Threaded Mode