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The Kusari Exiles (4.86)
Offline JIVA
12-14-2011, 12:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-14-2011, 01:00 PM by JIVA.)
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there are two concerns that have already been mentioned:

- the ZoI:

concepts of a ZoI are and have always been flawed. - for some factions they describe where they can go and opererate without "getting in trouble with the rules" for others they describe a literal "zone of interest" - which can be extended if interest includes more.

what i d like to see is a more "refined" faction description.

something like this is where we operate, this is were we would NEVER go beyond ( like most of kusari, cause thats the point of it - not to go there - so you don t loose your face/honor ) - and that is where we may go, if a critical situation may arise.

- the alliances

i have never been too comfortable with the entire "now that we face a stronger common enemy, we have to work together". for years ... kusari forces have killed thousands if not millions of bretonians - and vice versa. now that the french show up, they work together.

so far so good - although they didn t even manage it against the nomads. ( but that might be cause they were not aware of the threat )

i would however like to address that - in contrast to rheinland, where ... in the war vs. liberty .. the nationalistic unlawfuls would fight liberty alongside with the lawful forces - the bretonian unlawfuls have not done so ( which only kind of includes the gaians, cause the mollys are somewhat special in that regard )

gaians have always been hostile to bretonia and bretonians interest - cause bretonia has never ceased to pursuit their ambitions with planets like gaia and carysle ( of whatever the planets name was in newcastle )



there i agree with what was said before....

- either ally yourself with the lawfuls ... OR the unlawfuls - cause
- from what i know.... gaians will keep fighting bretonians in 4.86 ( won t they? )

*edit: but if the NLH have agreed to such a "green" state - it is OK, i guess

personally - i think that an alliance with the gaians would be most probable .... but that doesn t help the exiles much. gaians have no real shipyard etc. . there has been a mutual friendship well before the events. - so from a RP pov, i d say - the exiles NEED bretonia, but that would kinda ruin their friendship with the gaians.



there is one more thing:

- you listed the ships and equipment you re going to use.
- is that an honest list? - or will that change according to the diplomacies you forge .... if that is the case
- you may also list ships and equipment that you "may" use
- and i m not sure about the maintenance of such a fleet. - do the bretonians allow maintaining the fleet? ( provided one needs a fully fletched shipyard to do so.... )



in general - the idea is good. - but the story has some holes ( which we discussed on the dev skype channel already ) - i do especially have some trouble comprehending the rather flawless transition from one emperor to a new one - from samura to kishiro - without all of kusari ( which was - according to the lore - vertically run through by those cooperations ) - i d expect much MUCH more turmoil.

especially - those forces that are now left behind in kusari - which are loyal to the new goverment - would consider the exiles to be a threat. - possibly even hunt them down.

i m not sure what future the exiles actually do have. - it reminds me of what the apocalypse had to endure. ( for those that don t remember - a renegade BHG core wing )

- admins made it so that their ships - due to a lack of maintenance - would be "destroyed - permanently" when being destroyed

*that only happened in the very end, when they were pushed to deploy in omicron kappa.



the principle is similar though. - a fleet with no home - and no chance to come back.




edit:

all in all - i think the faction is quite interesting. - but i also think that it should be a lot more complex and complicated than it is presented here. the conflict of honor, the denial of going home, the uprising of a new emperor at home, an invasion of a superior foe, the lack of infrastructure and resources, the warrior code.

all that is a GREAT pre-requisite for roleplay - and it would be very sad when it all came down to just another pvp / combat orientated faction. ( no, you haven t written that down ) - i d like to see the interconnectiveness of the political and social interdependencies displayed. the "shame" of allying with a former enemy, the shame of having been replaced by an uprising emperor, - the fall of grace from warriors to exiles.

the faction is not fighting for survival - that is easy. the faction is fighting for re-gaining their honor - ... but how can that be reflected in their RP.

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The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by Zelot - 12-13-2011, 11:56 PM
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The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by Zelot - 12-14-2011, 12:24 AM
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by Zelot - 12-14-2011, 12:26 AM
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The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by sadtranslation - 12-14-2011, 01:09 AM
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by jammi - 12-14-2011, 01:35 AM
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by Zelot - 12-14-2011, 02:37 AM
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by Decktare - 12-14-2011, 05:13 AM
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by Zelot - 12-14-2011, 05:47 AM
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by The.Outlaw.Star - 12-14-2011, 06:04 AM
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The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by varoshanin - 12-14-2011, 07:08 AM
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by Avalanche - 12-14-2011, 08:22 AM
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The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - by JIVA - 12-14-2011, 12:34 PM
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