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Fighters should be fun...
Offline Jinx
12-23-2007, 12:19 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-23-2007, 12:32 PM by Jinx.)
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must be all the good dodging skills - which is a good thing and a bad thing as it appears. take the average player - even a one vs. one - a fight won t take hours, cause people just don t know how to avoid taking damage that much.

however, cutting the nano supply won t affect the casual player much. so there is hardly a bad side. what i experienced was that ... indeed - the larger the ship you fly, the faster its going down. ( provided you are fighting against an appropriate force of course )

so when i was fighting against 2 scorpion wild GBs ( + a few nomad NPCs ) there was of course allmost no chance to dodge with a zoner juggernaut, so i took all the damage of course. had i been in a light fighter - i guess even i could have stayed for a much longer time than in the battleship - of course not doing any damage. but that way, i had to dock out at one point.

its hard to balance bats bots - you can either try to make it equal for every ship - fighter up to battleship ( currently fighter = 3 times, battleship = 75% repair ) or pay a lot of time to individually customize it.

right now, i am flying the kiith somtaav SHF for two reasons. i can fly it as some sort of minibomber ( can shoot the supernova ), it might not be agile enough to avoid fighters, but it is agile enough so that ... when i don t want it - a battleship would never take me down. on top of that - a bomber has 105 bats/bots maybe - the SHF has 340 - meaning that as a rookie pilot i can make countless mistakes, and heal up for half a dozen times - shields and hull if i like.

my feeling is that ( and i am paying no thought on capship whoring at that time ) : fighters up to VHF should heal up once fully - and once half. SHF maybe 2 times fully - or just like VHF 1.5 times. ( bombers aswell )

but capital ships should repair up 1.5 times aswell - when they face an appropriate force ( and i m not meaning the single, brave but funny single bomberace that might have the skills but its a bit of a strange thing ) they go down quickly.

thats a whole big balance issue that can be started when it comes to bats and bots - and i m not sure if we have the proper overview of how it will affect the gameplay. right now, for casual pilots, it feels OK - but that might only be cause we are used to it. - other servers have no bats/bots sometimes - which is too extreme, imo ( cause those servers mostly don t have those strict re-engagement rules ) - we have a 4 hours ban and a shady re-engagement rule....we must have room to make up for mistakes while we fight.

so i m not saying yes or no to that proposal - i m sure it would work, but not sure if it provides all the positive effect. most pilots on the server are no aces and fights do not take hours - thats only a very small minority.

edit: is it an option to get rid of universal armor? - so that only ships with 300+ cargo hold (200+ VIII) can use armor upgrades?

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Fighters should be fun... - by Yngen - 12-23-2007, 06:27 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Virus - 12-23-2007, 06:40 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Drake - 12-23-2007, 06:41 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Unseelie - 12-23-2007, 06:47 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Jwnantze - 12-23-2007, 06:59 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2007, 10:28 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Koolmo - 12-23-2007, 10:34 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2007, 10:40 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Koolmo - 12-23-2007, 10:46 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2007, 10:47 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Koolmo - 12-23-2007, 10:48 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2007, 10:52 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Rogue63 - 12-23-2007, 11:47 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2007, 11:57 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 12-23-2007, 12:08 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Jinx - 12-23-2007, 12:19 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Gamazson - 12-23-2007, 01:24 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Jinx - 12-23-2007, 01:27 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-23-2007, 01:35 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-23-2007, 02:18 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 12-23-2007, 03:13 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Treewyrm - 12-23-2007, 03:28 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Malaclypse 666 - 12-23-2007, 03:32 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Panzer - 12-23-2007, 03:33 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Eppy - 12-23-2007, 03:36 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 12-23-2007, 04:16 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Yngen - 12-23-2007, 04:42 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by X-Lancer - 12-23-2007, 05:37 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Treewyrm - 12-23-2007, 05:46 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Jwnantze - 12-23-2007, 05:59 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by RingoW - 12-23-2007, 06:01 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Denelo - 12-23-2007, 06:08 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Spear - 12-23-2007, 06:38 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Drake - 12-23-2007, 06:44 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by X-Lancer - 12-23-2007, 06:48 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Spear - 12-23-2007, 07:20 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2007, 07:26 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-23-2007, 07:48 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Drake - 12-23-2007, 08:24 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Spear - 12-23-2007, 09:06 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Yngen - 12-23-2007, 10:06 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 12-23-2007, 10:12 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-23-2007, 10:27 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2007, 10:29 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-23-2007, 10:34 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 12-23-2007, 10:38 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2007, 10:38 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Panzer - 12-23-2007, 10:41 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-23-2007, 10:47 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Spear - 12-23-2007, 10:48 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-24-2007, 12:02 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-24-2007, 12:25 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 12-24-2007, 01:37 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-24-2007, 02:16 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 12-24-2007, 02:40 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-24-2007, 03:23 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by X-Lancer - 12-24-2007, 03:37 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Virus - 12-24-2007, 05:02 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-24-2007, 11:31 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-24-2007, 01:34 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by KercKasha - 12-24-2007, 03:19 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by OsoRojo - 12-24-2007, 06:54 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-24-2007, 08:55 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Virus - 12-24-2007, 09:00 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 12-24-2007, 09:34 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-24-2007, 11:02 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by KercKasha - 12-24-2007, 11:13 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-24-2007, 11:18 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by KercKasha - 12-24-2007, 11:23 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Spear - 12-24-2007, 11:32 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by KercKasha - 12-24-2007, 11:56 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-25-2007, 12:10 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-25-2007, 12:15 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Kaiden - 12-25-2007, 12:53 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-25-2007, 01:28 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 12-25-2007, 01:59 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by McNeo - 12-25-2007, 02:58 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-25-2007, 03:17 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-25-2007, 03:29 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by mohr - 12-25-2007, 04:27 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Virus - 12-25-2007, 05:03 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Turkish - 12-25-2007, 05:09 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Horon - 12-25-2007, 07:58 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-25-2007, 03:22 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-25-2007, 03:33 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-25-2007, 03:38 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-25-2007, 03:48 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-25-2007, 08:55 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 12-25-2007, 10:33 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-26-2007, 02:12 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-26-2007, 03:41 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Horon - 12-26-2007, 03:59 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Ascendancy - 12-26-2007, 08:23 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 12-26-2007, 01:51 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-26-2007, 04:28 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Razr - 12-26-2007, 04:37 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-26-2007, 05:06 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Razr - 12-26-2007, 05:14 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-26-2007, 05:41 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Razr - 12-26-2007, 06:14 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Ascendancy - 12-26-2007, 07:06 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Razr - 12-26-2007, 07:17 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-26-2007, 08:05 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-26-2007, 08:20 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-26-2007, 08:25 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Razr - 12-26-2007, 09:19 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-26-2007, 11:14 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-26-2007, 11:19 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-27-2007, 02:46 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-27-2007, 02:53 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-27-2007, 03:00 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-27-2007, 04:04 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 12-27-2007, 04:10 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-27-2007, 04:40 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-27-2007, 05:14 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-27-2007, 07:48 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Ascendancy - 12-27-2007, 07:57 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-27-2007, 08:06 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Carlos_Benitez - 12-28-2007, 03:17 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-28-2007, 04:02 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-28-2007, 04:45 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by SimonBlack - 12-28-2007, 04:48 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-28-2007, 04:51 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 12-28-2007, 05:09 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-28-2007, 06:40 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Jinx - 12-28-2007, 07:44 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by SimonBlack - 12-28-2007, 08:53 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by pipsqueak - 12-28-2007, 09:22 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-28-2007, 10:18 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 12-28-2007, 11:07 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by looter - 12-28-2007, 11:11 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 12-28-2007, 11:17 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-29-2007, 02:32 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-29-2007, 03:05 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 12-29-2007, 08:33 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-29-2007, 08:39 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-29-2007, 09:44 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-29-2007, 11:06 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 12-29-2007, 04:53 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-29-2007, 05:46 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by SimonBlack - 12-29-2007, 05:59 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 12-29-2007, 06:08 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 12-29-2007, 06:19 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by yurineova - 12-29-2007, 06:55 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-29-2007, 08:09 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-29-2007, 08:26 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-29-2007, 11:01 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-30-2007, 02:23 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 12-30-2007, 02:47 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-30-2007, 12:54 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 12-30-2007, 01:56 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by galaktik - 12-30-2007, 04:13 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-30-2007, 04:16 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-30-2007, 08:33 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-30-2007, 11:58 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-31-2007, 12:23 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 12-31-2007, 10:38 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by SimonBlack - 12-31-2007, 12:35 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-31-2007, 05:14 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 12-31-2007, 06:18 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 01-01-2008, 01:57 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 01-01-2008, 02:12 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Jinx - 01-01-2008, 02:19 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 01-01-2008, 02:53 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Horon - 01-01-2008, 03:36 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by MB52 - 01-01-2008, 06:17 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 01-01-2008, 06:56 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 01-01-2008, 07:09 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 01-01-2008, 11:30 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 01-02-2008, 11:30 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 01-03-2008, 12:06 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 01-03-2008, 12:55 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Jinx - 01-03-2008, 01:04 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 01-03-2008, 01:31 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Exile - 01-03-2008, 10:28 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 01-03-2008, 12:40 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Jinx - 01-03-2008, 01:08 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 01-03-2008, 01:45 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Horon - 01-03-2008, 02:12 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 01-03-2008, 03:06 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Horon - 01-03-2008, 03:09 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 01-03-2008, 03:52 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Ichtan - 01-03-2008, 04:29 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Jinx - 01-03-2008, 04:36 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 01-03-2008, 05:39 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 01-03-2008, 05:57 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 01-03-2008, 06:21 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 01-03-2008, 11:21 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 01-04-2008, 09:22 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 01-04-2008, 12:12 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 01-04-2008, 08:07 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Eppy - 01-04-2008, 08:11 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 01-04-2008, 08:30 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 01-05-2008, 12:52 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Unseelie - 01-05-2008, 01:01 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-05-2008, 02:04 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 01-05-2008, 02:34 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Badger - 01-05-2008, 01:08 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Epholl - 01-05-2008, 01:22 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 01-05-2008, 02:21 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by StarButt - 01-05-2008, 07:12 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by mjolnir - 01-05-2008, 10:52 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by El Nino - 01-06-2008, 09:52 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by jammi - 02-03-2008, 09:16 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by chopper - 02-04-2008, 12:10 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Xing - 02-04-2008, 01:04 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Horon - 02-04-2008, 01:34 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Snip3rNife - 02-24-2008, 03:33 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Wo3dy - 02-24-2008, 07:31 AM
Fighters should be fun... - by Varyag - 02-27-2008, 09:37 PM
Fighters should be fun... - by Asymptotic - 02-28-2008, 12:41 AM

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