The Kusari Exiles

[Unseelie]

Well, actually, what I'm complaining about, in very specific, is the expectation of the Ronin that Bretonia accept them as friends and buddies because it has to to survive. The lore itself is rather vague on exactly what's going on between Bretonia and the Ronin, just that there is an agreement...an agreement which is not going to be set on paper because the bretonian players are very interested in certain clauses that the Ronin reject. Lack of that document leads to finger pointing at the lore and trite declaration of 'look, we're friends' when in fact all the lore says is that the Queen has accepted an agreement.

I'm only, in so much as that rant was concerned, mad at the idea that Zelot keeps perpetrating that Bretonia needs the Ronin so very badly.

The Ronin are helpful to Bretonia the way a crumb is helpful to a starving man, marginally to not at all. What Bretonia desperately needs is Liberty...Oh, there's an idea. If it would make sense for Liberty to say something to Bretonia about committing war crimes on the Ronin...


There are interesting ways to do it. Ways that make sense, and fit into the lore. The lore is lose. The Queen accepts an agreement. (three As in a row. Alliteration ftw) Kogen Proposes.

Without even getting into the terms, you can do rather more interesting things than "because a man is holding a gun on your mother" style enemy of my enemy who was my enemy but is now my friend even though they killed millions via undefined plot device.


To reiterate, as I guess I should, that being the point of this thread (but the other text kept me writing for a while, so that's nice) I'm not mad at the lore. The lore, in this very tight instance, is shaped just loose enough to let players do rather fun things. I'm miffed at the simple suggestion that Bretonia's juuust desperate enough to take Kogen's help...By rights, Bretonia's less desperate now than it was before..



I'm sorry you posted in something you didn't want to, reverse joe. I suggest stepping back from every post you make and checking to see if it was worth it once you've calmed down.
Off topic, but hey. I do think Gallia should do rather more to Bretonia than squat on Edinburgh...to the point that, in my memory, I rather wanted there to be no proposed new anglia systems, and conquered new london, a battlefield P Leeds+environs, conquered Edinburgh, Battlefield Newcastle, Battlefield Dublin. I'm still kind of hoping it happens.

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