' Wrote:If we were to go by vanilla lore, it would take six month just to refit a battleship. It's in one of the rumors, it says Battleship Yukon will be moved to Norfolk for that.
Refit does not equal new construction.
Refit means that you're taking a completed ship in, pulling old things out and putting new things in. That means that the ship is going to be down for a while.
Also, it IS possible using modern day assembly line production techniquies to make improvements literally while the line is running. You provide a certain amount of empty spaces, then the teams change out from the old parts to the new parts. So if the body style doesn't change, just the trim pieces, it's an easy swap out.
' Wrote:While a zero gravity environment greatly enhances the movement of incredibly heavy components, the lack of superstructure robotic equipment such as cranes and massive 'welding' devices, at least just looking at the construction facilities would slow down the process.
For that, I blame the original designers of the game. They didn't put anything that detailed into the original graphics, and no one has changed things since then. To actually build a ship you would need a basic framework. Then bring the crews in and start laying things out. In the Honorverse by David Weber, he mentions how the Grayson' turned normal construction yards on their ears by simply going out to an empty spot and throwing the framework out there, and then starting to build where ever they were. No up, no down, and a spherical volume.
I think the original game designers were influence by Star Trek the Motion Picture.
The cranes and welding devices are too small to see from a distance. Doesn't mean they weren't there. Or perhaps this is the final inspection dock, where the ship was moved.
From a limited perspective, Ktyan has a point, except that again he's failing to consider Discovery robotics. The old joke being how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood comes to mind. How much more production than humans would 10 robots do at the same job as 10 humans if they didn't have to stop for pee breaks, lunch breaks, or to sleep, and were only down 1 hour per day for preventative maintenance?
I agree that a battleship probably takes a full year to build from scratch. But if you start building them at the rate of one per two weeks - that means that at the end of year one you've built one battleship. At the end of year two, you have 26 of them.
That's how the Corsairs, Order, Outcasts, CR, and BHG can have their fleets.
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.