Corsair - Zoner

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corsairs getting angry for the cause yes, in rp

hessians allying with rheinland lawfuls+bounty hunters+every dog in sirius only to get pvp whoring... yes... sad but it is pvp whoring .

Im definatly not up with the RP of this one, But I have a logical comment

Not that im all for shooting anyone, Im very against it, Hence i choose zoner, Before and again.

So ship Wing (A) (Hessian?) Flys to raid Gamma
And ship wing (B) (Order?) Flys to raid gamma
And ship wing © (Bounty Hunters) fly to raid gamma

They all arrive at (X) point and go wthang, Were going Corsair hunting leave us be, No were going Corsair hunting leave us be.

Now if i was a commander of a war fleet in this situation, Logic to me, dictates, I can fight these 2 other fleets here and now, Maybe die, Maybie cripple my fleet but win, OR I can say, Hmm Corsairs you say, After you.

Did I allie? No, If a big as battleship comes at me and an outcast will i whistle waiting for it to blow up the outcast?

No I Kill the Corsairs, What I came to do, And hope and prey the Corsairs kill more Hessains and Outcast's then they do my fleet, The whole time laugthing about once the Corsairs are crippled, Outcasts (or Hessains) Will be next, Maybe Ill take a out of context gun cam image of a Outcasts weapon hitting a Hessan and anon transmit it to the OC.

As i say, thats logic, to me.

This guy on the simpsons who claims to be wise, once said.

A good commander wins battles.
A great commander Chooses which battles to win.

Its the simpsons, But it makes sence to me.

And please, for the love of god, if you're going to reply to something I wrote atleast make your text easy to read. It's not so hard to capitalise some letters, avoid ????????? or make some paragraphs. Your butchering of the english language is something that doesn't allow me to take you seriously.

Actually, for some of us it is that hard. Please reply to me in Chinese or Arabic and show me how well you do with a second language. Now I don't speak Chinese, Because its to hard, I only speak English because I have to, Its also very hard, infact from memory, one of the worlds hardest.

"blodo. just say me one more npc faction that was under attack 24/7... and yes 24/7.
maybe then you understand what is the difference."

Not NPC Faction, But try...

Transports
Miners
Ore Haulers

The difference is, When they complain (Yes i read those threads to) you guys that are saying this is unfair, pop in and tell THEM to grow som *****, Fight back, get over it.

Defenses are bad?

I know the quotes a bit out of context, Bear with me.

I dont know this for a fact, so someone feel free to correct me, But Corsairs cant see Corsair defences.

Why do I say this? Well I was flying my neutral zoner around the other day nice and peaceful like, Then this other guy (BH) came along and shot a Corsair NPC, Then all these ships simply apeared, Big Big ships, and he killed and killed, you know what though, Those big Corsair tagged ships didn't stop coming, then he perished.

Saw the same thing with nomads. (First hand this time, They attacked me and an order battleship, but more apeared and attacked us faster than we could kill and defend ourselfs, We vacated that area quickly.

There is the other thread with the warmongering Zoners declaring neutrality something of the past - is that supposed to be taken seriously?

Yes, Under one condition, Those zoners return to the places of there forefathers and take on new ID's IMO, They are free to stray from the zoner way, the only consequence would be, that this no longer renders them zoners. From war and hostility zoners came, and to war and hostility they can return, but not as zoners IMO.

"or removal of all turret hardpoints on Zoner caps so neutrality and diplomacy is no longer an option, but a forced path."

Um, I may have understood the lore wrong, But zoner ships are supposed to be real big and real powerful, Not so we can kill people, but to deter them from trying it on.

I Haven't shot 1 Corsair BH or any other faction, As a zoner, Ever in my life. (NPC's for repping correct zoner rep excluded) and even that I hate, I absolutely HATE opening my player profile and seeing "fighters killed" How ever, I have had corsairs fire on me, and destroy my assets, Before and after these events. Also once or twice an Outcast, and a Rhineland ship. When the guns start blazing, I sigh, and jump into the escape pod, im outta there before my shields are even down. Some players will never allow Neutrality, no matter what zoners give up, removing defensive capabilities simply would "Retard" the ability's of zoners to defend themselves, some zoners like defending themselves.

"I might not agree with the Corsair side either, but at least their burning hatred and vicious behaviour in and out of rp falls within the boundaries of what the Corsairs are supposed to be like"

First, I really like when you speak, Very thought provoking. I disagree with both sides (I being a zoner) But I do understand why some zoners are breaking RP (IMO) they were forced to, Corsairs (TBH mainly) under the rule of an admin (Yes that's relevant, People look up to admins even if there not using green text) Declared all out hostility on zoners, the Corsairs I played with warned me of this while ignoring there council and TBH, To this day i still get told "We dont mind, but if you see a TBH run, run for your life"

TBH made zoner life an impossibility, they forced hostility on us, with us having no acceptable way of retaliating, the leading admins response was to put diplomatic pressure on the factions... Diplomacy takes time, zoners cant ring the factions and have a yarn about current events and work it out before there ship is destroyed. An attack in the rules is sheilds sub 50%, This means a zoner cant lawfully return fire until his defensive capability is retarded. I addressed this problem by logging out of the game whenever TBH were online and coming to the forums, Look at my forum join date, then how many posts I had prior to TBH, Only the occasional "Help my char broke" or "I cant play Disco for X reason"

Were is the RP leading to this? I asked the admin, The admin said go read ooc/oorp theres enougth treads about it there, then linked me secure corsairs comms links....

And i use the word admin because thats how i see it, I dont see a player like you or me, The player is flying an admin banner, and thats what i personally see, just like all the admins, dosn't matter if there chatting about daisy's I still see the admin tag, and I expect, what they say to be correct, Fair, and for the better of the intire community, I expect there RP to be way better than mine, because mine blatantly is lacking.

"Elect some leaders and let yourselves be governed by those who are capable."

That used to be the way, I recently asked a Corsair to explain why they didn't like this way, Im lead to beleive, in my absence, the corsairs were significantly responsible for the termination of the council. I love your Idea, Loved the council, But obviously (From what im told) The corsairs had just as big a problem with it.

"globalplayer-svk" Your post, is the zoner ID, so i wont quote it, Your pretense as i understand it is that zoners can only attack in defence.

Isnt it american footbal Federation that often says "Sometimes the best defence is a good offence" Its called pro-active defence, Its fair to assume the corsairs mean to harm zoners, they made a big deal about saying so, so zoners realising the end result of any TBH interaction is (By there roleplay) Being shot, They pre-empt it, This is real world and RP, Not that i support it. If someone pointed a gun at you, IRL and said im going to shoot you, Would you wait to see if they were being truthful? Reasonable Belief in the unavoidable attack is IMO a attack, The guy pulls a gun, You hide behind a dumpster and throw a rock, Was what you did so unfair?

RE: Kudos
"The fact that their is almost none says something rather bad about BOTH sides."

Your 100% right, I don't see much good feeling about these events. I certainly have very little, Wait.. none, but i will go post a kudos (Now i know that exists) for the Corsairs who are ignoring the Council and TBH in a chunk of my Timezone, allowing me to get a small amount of flytime.

"You will also notice that I'm letting someone else do the diplomacy RP for TAZ partially because as an Admin, I'll sit out of this so as to avoid claims of Zoner bias."

Barely knowing you I respect you alot but that statement.... That is sooooo WOW! I mean really... Your a legend. A true Blue Legend. The only thing that blows me away more is Zelot, Causing a large chunk of this while flying an admin badge.