' Wrote:It turns slow, but it's not very big. From testing it didn't seem overpowered. Let's see what more people think.
I bet most of the people think it is overpowered- it can dodge a way too good.Turning is not so important as dodging and size acceleration and response. It matters as long as you are not outturned badly- this is not the case in the same classes- VHF vs VHF fights, it might be in VHF vs HF but almost nobody flys HF exactly because turning is not so important.
Sabre in 4.85 turned a way too slow compared with Eagle but it was still supreme-smaller profile with holes, huge fire power, excellent dodging abilities. Dev Team argued a lot that 4.85 Sabre was not OP.
Same with Wraith.
We had this discussion million times- if you took for example templar(good dodging slolwy turning with a lot of fire power and armour, small profile) and compare it with greyhound(bad dodging fast turning medium armour,large profile and bad fire power) and eagle( good dodging good turning low armour and medicore power, large profile) we would see that Eagle is better then the other 2 ships, Templar is better then Greyhound( side profile of a barn).
Turning is not the major balancing factor because less then 100 people on discovery main server can use it as advantage- all people can use dodging as advantage- so people who get ships with better turning instead of better dodging tend to be on the bad side of the balance.
I do agree that if we give 2 very good pilots greyhound and templar- the greyhound would win, but if we give the rest of the server 95% the same ships the templar will win.
Same with Eagle and Templar.
For more precise balance sewing lets take Wraith and Greyhound for example-
Grey have less guns then Wraith-4,5 less armour, less bots,less firepower less core less dodging capabilites.
According to the Dev Team Wraith is have supreme armour/bots/core/agility/turning because it looses one gun, Grey looses 1,5 guns but is worst in every direction possible. So yes Wraith is not OP.:lol:
' Wrote:It handles like barghest and much slower than challenger.
Will test it more then but still I find that have medium bomber handling.
IMG ship according to the Stats have a better response then Barghest, and I am also almost sure that it has harder to hit model.
' Wrote:Because of looking by numbers or because of actual performance of Werewolf and Greyhounds equipped with them?
What about if I use them on Eagle or Ravens Talon? I still get no nerf and they are still OP. I tested both on Wolf and Grey- I would go with Codes on Grey- it just does not have enough shield breaking power with Sammaels. They work good on Wolf.
If you could manage to make the auto nerf plugin to reduce your core wiith 30-40 % if you use it with other ships I would propose to buff it actually.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
