Lets improve the gameplay between the Hessians and the Corsairs

[Knjaz]

In regards to the bold, each to his own :cool:

We do use O91, but then get camped on the other side; if we go through, instadeath, especially for caps when there are multiple Jorm/Vidar.

Yes, LNS often fail to use their tactical advantage, but there were bombers and cruisers at the vanguard afaik on that occasion.

The trouble is, 'x' amount of Legates stand little chance against 6/7 destroyers, when used as fat bombers/support; we need to pull 4/5 cruisers too, and then the fight is simply taken away from the battleships. A couple of bombers can help support, providing the cruisers aren't hitting them with Solaris.

The trouble is organisation and numbers, and most of the time, it just isn't possible. And that's why they log, because they can't do anything.

About the tech discussion, an interesting point; you could use a Solaris cruiser as snub support, with pulses. You could also use an Osiris with razors(for anti gunboats) and pulses(as Aerternus suggested) for anti-gb/cruiser/battleship shield, but this is ineffective when you don't have a Legate as backup.

Legate's powercore can support chainfiring 3 basic missiles - at the rate of 1 missile per 7 seconds, and it will be fully covered with your power regen. Granted, such legate will have limited anti-battleship capabilities. Combine that with few cruisers that are picking one bullhead and ripping him apart, and you'll get the picture. Of course, the close cooperation between cruisers and legates is required.

Also, keep in mind (just a theory, not tested yet) that Legate is the only known to me (also, there can be others) battleship with 2 heavy slots placed so good towards the center of the ship. Provides extreme accuracy.

Using pulses against gunboats is, honestly, a joke. Same legate would be way more effective when dealing with the gunboats that come close with his secondaries only (although their slot location is sub optimal, I'd personally exchange 2 primary slots with 2 secondary slots (the ones that are located on "towers" - it would give a Legate +2 well hitting secondaries) And on long ranges you simply will not hit.

Osiris requires a second heavy. A battleship with single heavy and little amount of lvl8's is, as I mentioned before, a sausage with primaries. The "4 pulse 1 mortar" setups that were proposed are so sub-optimal and narrowly specialized that I'm not sure if I even need to comment on that.

Good solaris setup for corsair cruiser might be 8 solaris, 2-3 cerberus, 1 lm, 0-1 missile.
OR - 8 solaris, 2 cerbs, 2 missiles for the probability of instakill. Or even 2 razors 1 pulse 1lm/or 2 cerbs rest up to you.
Or any other. There're alot of "Teamfight only" setups that are working great once put in the right place with right cooperation.


Now, to the most painful part - jumphole camping. The problem i that they, I guess, are camping the JH behind it? So once you jump in you get a valley of cerbs etc.
It is possible to overcome it. In one of our latest raids on face, we have been breaking through the Jumphole to omicron 100, with few ossies (including Sun.Core), a geb and few snubs camping it on the other side. We lost only one battlecruiser in the result, and that was only to our poor cooperation - and that's when sturming a Guard system - although, we had numerical superiority back then. (and yeh, then we decided to go raid SCRA in Delta, but they found us first and novaspammed to death, but it's not about that)

But to pull that out you will require at least few Legates that know what they're doing and are willing to cooperate and share bots... or a bomber spam. It will be very important to position legates at the instadock location, and make them jump at once. A RepShip would come handy as well.


OF course, if it's only legate vs 5 jorms camping a JH, it's kinda different story.