Lets improve the gameplay between the Hessians and the Corsairs

[Laerethe]

Legate's powercore can support chainfiring 3 basic missiles - at the rate of 1 missile per 7 seconds, and it will be fully covered with your power regen. Granted, such legate will have limited anti-battleship capabilities. Combine that with few cruisers that are picking one bullhead and ripping him apart, and you'll get the picture. Of course, the close cooperation between cruisers and legates is required.

Also, keep in mind (just a theory, not tested yet) that Legate is the only known to me (also, there can be others) battleship with 2 heavy slots placed so good towards the center of the ship. Provides extreme accuracy.

Using pulses against gunboats is, honestly, a joke. Same legate would be way more effective when dealing with the gunboats that come close with his secondaries only (although their slot location is sub optimal, I'd personally exchange 2 primary slots with 2 secondary slots (the ones that are located on "towers" - it would give a Legate +2 well hitting secondaries) And on long ranges you simply will not hit.

Osiris requires a second heavy. A battleship with single heavy and little amount of lvl8's is, as I mentioned before, a sausage with primaries. The "4 pulse 1 mortar" setups that were proposed are so sub-optimal and narrowly specialized that I'm not sure if I even need to comment on that.

Good solaris setup for corsair cruiser might be 8 solaris, 2-3 cerberus, 1 lm, 0-1 missile.
OR - 8 solaris, 2 cerbs, 2 missiles for the probability of instakill. Or even 2 razors 1 pulse 1lm/or 2 cerbs rest up to you.
Or any other. There're alot of "Teamfight only" setups that are working great once put in the right place with right cooperation.
Now, to the most painful part - jumphole camping. The problem i that they, I guess, are camping the JH behind it? So once you jump in you get a valley of cerbs etc.
It is possible to overcome it. In one of our latest raids on face, we have been breaking through the Jumphole to omicron 100, with few ossies (including Sun.Core), a geb and few snubs camping it on the other side. We lost only one battlecruiser in the result, and that was only to our poor cooperation - and that's when sturming a Guard system. (and yeh, then we decided to go raid SCRA in Delta, but they found us first and novaspammed to death, but it's not about that)

But to pull that out you will require at least few Legates that know what they're doing and are willing to cooperate and share bots... or a bomber spam. It will be very important to position legates at the instadock location, and make them jump at once. A RepShip would come handy as well.
OF course, if it's only legate vs 5 jorms camping a JH, it's kinda different story.

Thing is, when you go into specialist loadouts, it gets crushed by any concerted effort i.e Hunters and Renegades, or Renegades and Hessians. And it fails when you're against multiple ships; just like bombers increase in efficiency exponentially, so do threshers/bullheads.

Just cause its accurate straight ahead doesn't mean its better than the others; they'll be hitting you from the top and bottom, where you are largest, not directly in front; okay, you can probably still hit them there, but that isn't the point. And with effective turret steering, you can't hit them at all.

The razors were more gunboat oriented, the pulses cruiser/battleship. Sorry if what I wrote didn't reflect that.

Agree with what you say about the Osiris.

Just as you are sometimes effective, you sometimes aren't; I've flown with you twice(only once as a group) and that was to Alpha, and that was a complete mess. Obviously, 6/7 battlecruisers will punch through a few Osiris, especially with the teamwork you guys have.

As soon as we start trying to use Legates, all the fights will return to the fields again; them camping the hole? Run to O41 and start winning again; maybe jump to O11 for an resupply and then come back.

It gets to a point, as we see with FACE, wherein the situation becomes unconquerable by normal means. And such domination just ruins the experience for everyone.

I found that a balanced fleet(A bull, Thresher and two fighters) is much funner than capwhoring(6/7 bulls and a Thresher); just ask Phobos. If you guys pulled a balanced fleet more, and gave warning that you were coming, we'd be able to put up a good fight that was fun for us all.

It has to work both ways.