RE: The sanction of the Hess/Bret Combined Forces BattleGroup

[Agmen of Eladesor]

So if an alliance, by the rules, consists of grouping with someone, then change "cannot ally with x" to "may not group with x" on the IDs. Simple.

I think the point is here - and you're WAY over there, missing it completely.

The group is the whole issue here, nothing more.

Also the whole 'grouping' thing Is reasonable. I mean that the admins punished those who were grouped. That makes sense. I don't know why you guys would group.. if you all didn't it actually would have been pretty cool to see something better come out of that.

How many times have we seen screaming about the Order and the Core 'working together' in the Omicrons when the Nomads show up? (Or the Core working with the Nomads that one time, when the Order showed up ... although we didn't join in the fun... and before you guys REALLY scream about that, remember the Core Guildmaster is Stoat ... infected, Wild member Stoat ... and yes, that's deliberately done that way to further the RP of the Core, so deal with it.)

Point being - even in this latest thing, when the Tundra came back - the Core did not and does not GROUP with their enemies. Even when we were 'allied' with the Corsairs for a while, we didn't GROUP with them. We may have WORKED with them - but we didn't GROUP with them. Grouping with someone means that you're pretty much allied with them - and that's a no-no. Come on, the BAF / BPA / BIS are the lawful good guys - they KNOW that the Hessians are unlawfuls, and the BAF would work WITH the RM against them in Omega 3 / 7 if need be.

What I don't understand is why, unless they were all hostile to the Zoners, that the people would even TRY to get back through space without docking at FP11 and mounting their gear back up. The Order was sitting in Zeta having lovely chats with people - I was there trying to freak them out and I could have done much worse if I'd brought in a different ship, but it wasn't fitting my RP on the character I had. (***BPA - friendly (?)***) I know there were BHG logged in Delta, too, to escort people.

Actually, as far as sanctions go, in my opinion this was pretty light, and it gets the message out to everyone. If you want to work with your enemies or someone you're not normally supposed to do, then DON'T GROUP WITH THEM. That's the point Del AND Blodo made - you shared comm links, you weren't working against a common enemy, you ALLIED with them.

No. Bad pilot. No cookies.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.