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Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends
Offline Laowai
01-15-2008, 01:40 AM,
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' Wrote:@ Laowai: You have a complete wrong imagination when it comes to fascists. They had a strict law as soon as they were ruling germany, for example. The SA before was a wilde horde and their attitudes and behaviors were not in interests of Hitler and fellows anymore. Thats why the SA was terminated in 1934. The head was killed, many arrested and many members taken to the SS. The SS were very disziplined, guess why? When they have shown misbehavior they were been imprisoned in their own concentration camp for a certain time.
Later the members of the fighting detatchments of SS, the "Waffen SS", were becoming famous for being the most disciplined and toughest opponents and were becoming infamous for being fanatics.
The bad thing was the misusing of the best characters these young man were coming up with.


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Ok, you're right in your historical example of the discipline and "laws" concerning those fascist organisations, but you have missed the point. Fascist states do not rule by what is known as "Rule of Law" ie, an independent judiciary where everyone, including the government (and thus the police) are accountable to, and governed by, existing laws.
In a fascist state, people are controlled by rules, but these is not usually universally applicable. In the case of the Nazis in Germany Hitler was the law, and thus not prosecutable under it, and for the most part, senior party members, their families (and anyone else they chose to bestow favors on) was also immune from the law.

This is true of all fascist states to various extremes, Mussolini in Italy, Franco in Spain, Tito in Yugoslavia etc etc.... (Tito was nominally communist but the lack of "rule of law" there makes it much of the same)

You cited the example of the SA being a "wild horde", but remember that prior to 1933 that wild horde was used time and time again by Hitler to get what he wanted. It was only after he had gained power that he reigned them in, and he did this, again, by personal decree, not by any court or standing law - he just simply made the law up as he went along.

So what i was saying in regards to the game, if Rheinland operates this way - they have no law as such, they just have rules, that their chancellor, can make as he goes along, and his police, (who are a great faction btw, its always fun to try and get in and out of Rheinland) - will obey. They would not have to worry about shooting civilians, regardless of their alignment, if the chancellor had told them to do it because they would never ever be prosecuted.


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Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by tfmachad - 01-14-2008, 01:07 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by blackdragon0083 - 01-14-2008, 01:52 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Lohingren - 01-14-2008, 02:02 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Jinx - 01-14-2008, 02:29 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Laowai - 01-14-2008, 02:38 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by tfmachad - 01-14-2008, 03:00 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-14-2008, 03:54 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Othman - 01-14-2008, 04:48 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Laowai - 01-14-2008, 04:51 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-14-2008, 04:53 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Laowai - 01-14-2008, 05:09 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by tfmachad - 01-14-2008, 05:21 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by blackdragon0083 - 01-14-2008, 05:28 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Laowai - 01-14-2008, 05:30 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by tfmachad - 01-14-2008, 05:39 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by mjolnir - 01-14-2008, 06:04 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by DBoy1612 - 01-14-2008, 06:09 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by cabinn - 01-14-2008, 07:59 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by RingoW - 01-14-2008, 08:39 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by SimonBlack - 01-14-2008, 08:49 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by MB52 - 01-14-2008, 09:03 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by DBoy1612 - 01-14-2008, 09:29 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Niezck - 01-14-2008, 09:38 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-14-2008, 09:39 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by McNeo - 01-14-2008, 09:43 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Niezck - 01-14-2008, 09:47 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-14-2008, 09:49 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Jihadjoe - 01-14-2008, 09:55 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by RingoW - 01-14-2008, 09:56 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by tfmachad - 01-14-2008, 10:05 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by McNeo - 01-14-2008, 10:09 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Laowai - 01-15-2008, 01:40 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-15-2008, 02:12 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Praetyre - 01-15-2008, 02:41 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Xing - 01-15-2008, 02:46 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Praetyre - 01-15-2008, 02:50 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by RParade - 01-15-2008, 02:57 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Laowai - 01-15-2008, 03:44 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-15-2008, 03:54 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by RParade - 01-15-2008, 04:02 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Laowai - 01-15-2008, 04:04 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-15-2008, 05:35 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Laowai - 01-15-2008, 05:57 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Fellow Hoodlum - 01-15-2008, 06:49 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by RParade - 01-15-2008, 07:31 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Equinox - 01-15-2008, 07:44 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by tfmachad - 01-15-2008, 08:36 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by RingoW - 01-15-2008, 09:46 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Laowai - 01-16-2008, 12:58 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by El Nino - 01-16-2008, 10:43 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Magoo! - 01-17-2008, 01:11 AM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by tfmachad - 01-17-2008, 05:08 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by Adventurer - 01-19-2008, 10:55 PM
Corsairs that dock in New Berlin and friends - by tfmachad - 01-19-2008, 11:19 PM
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