(12-13-2012, 07:19 PM)kikatsu Wrote: Eh it is more or less balanced now.
Personally I would like to see all the Nomad stuff be a lot more powerful, I want them to be a threat, or more of one. I know people will say oh well they are too weak to fight humans head to head so they made humans fight each other. When Nomads appear in space I want people to cry and run away instead of call the gank squad.
Which is exactly what those of us who are part of the K'Hara have been saying, ever since 4.86 came out. The Nomad ships USED to be something to be feared, and actually NEEDED the gank squad to destroy them. Now ... no way. And the Irra is basically the same as the Bullhead, since those both have the good thrusters, it's just that most people don't see a Bullhead. (BHG Battlecruiser, for those of you who don't fly it.)
But let's look at gun and ship stats as they are now, just to see:
Nom Ftr - 9,800 HP, 60 bots/bats, 12,400 power
Wraith - 11,500 HP, 67 bots/bats, 12,400 power
Manta - 10,600 HP, 65 bots/bats, 12,400 power
Nammu - 125,000 HP, 450 bots/bats, 600,000 power
Imperator - 125,000 HP, 380 bots/bats, 600,000 power
Bret GB - 155,000 HP, 450 bots/bats, 600,000 power
Irra - 375,000 HP, 750 bots/bats, 2.25 mil power
Bullhead - 405,000 HP, 900 bots/bats, 3.6 mil power
Praefect - 330,000 HP, 825 bots/bats, 2.25 mil power
Marduk - 1.65 mil HP, 2200 bots/bats, 9 mil power
Valor - 1.35 mil HP, 1700 bots/bats, 9 mil power
Nephilim - 1.5 mil HP, 2100 bots/bats, 9 mil power
Okay, their ships don't appear to be too overpower, what about their guns?
Hmmm - the feared Nomad Singularity Cannon - that shoots out small black holes - does the same damage as every other SNAC in the game, 132,000 / 66,000. That's not OP.
The Nomad Type III Laser, a class 10 gun, does 1020 / 510 for 231 power. The Liberty Magna Hammer V does 1010 / 505 for 195 power. Both have refire rates of 2. Bomber energy cannons do 938 / 469 for 169 power, and refire at 4. All those ONYX that people ignore, because for code weapons they're light? Those do 1085 / 542.50 for 238 power.
The biggest gun in the Nomad arsenal is basically a Heavy Trebuchet - 5.5 mil vs 5.4 mil damage, or Heavy Mortar - 5.2 mil. The Nomad gunboat forward gun has the exact same stats as the Bret gunboat forward gun. And 1 gun with 5 turrets is a lot worse than 1 gun and 7 turrets.
Nomads are SUPPOSED to be the boogieman that makes you crap your pants when they show up. They're SUPPOSED to be able to pop up in space and REQUIRE a gank squad to take them out - if the gank squad could do so. TWO Nomad ships showing up in space should be notice that a fleet needs to be called out. Instead, because people whine, bitch, moan, and complain about balance and fairness, the Nomad ships have continually been nerfed and hosed until they're nothing more than a joke now. (I know - my Irra has been killed a LOT - and last time was by two gunboats and two bombers. I know I suck at PvP, but still...)
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
