(03-27-2013, 12:11 AM)Daedric Wrote: @eisen
I'm not sure what responsibility of an official faction forces official factions to role play in a manner that makes you happy. I highly doubt they've added one that forces official factions to do exactly what others want them to do.
My advice to you is to role play. Instead of complaining and threatening ooRP action because Az decided to be creative and role play this faction to faction encounter out (as opposed to just going - yea our bad won't happen again).
I have not made any statement regarding the legitimacy of Az's roleplay - I merely heard what his motivations behind not really giving a crap about Rheinland's politics were - and I was just giving him a friendly heads up about how he may have reached his stance on the faulty presumption that there would be no tangible consequences. Since the actual consequences would be quite detrimental to the OSI, I believed it was a courtesy to inform him so that he could make a more informed decision.
In my opinion, however, the whole "lol hessians did it" was a play at attempting to dodge the consequences of what one of the most active ships in the OSI did - something that I found to be rather disappointing (not that my personal feeling has any bearing on anything). If every official faction used an excuse like that, no faction would ever be held responsible for anything. It's just feedback, nothing more, nothing less - and no-one is expected to keep to my minimum expectations, and I apologize if anyone read it to be like that.
Since you've said that you haven't read about what's been going on between Rheinland and the OSI, I'll give you a brief overview.
Earlier this year, an OSI 5k was found smuggling goods through Hamburg bound for Liberty (by its own inrp admission). It was stopped, and when ordered to drop its infringing cargo, it decided to dock on Hamburg while under fire from Rheinland Lawful ships.
As a response to that, the Rheinland Lawful leadership decided to be kind, and imposed a 100k fine with no other penalties - which is nothing compared to what would have normally happened.
Fast forward a bit. An OSI 5k is caught docking on a known Hessian station, purchasing a full load of illegally mined uncut diamonds.
Initially, OSI was fined 15 million credits (for a full load of uncut diamonds, which would fetch more than twice that amount) - the OSI CEO decided to take an abrasive attitude towards the Admiral of the RM, and basically blamed the entire thing on hessians and Rheinland Lawful incompetence. As such, the OSI was temporarily barred from Rheinland space.
OSI was re-approached with a fine of 50 million credits (still a slap on the wrist), and terms that entailed OSI ships contacting any available Rheinland Lawful ships prior to entering Rheinland space, as well as an apology to the Admiral for being quite rude - OSI CEO decided to stay the course, refused to pay the fine - saying that it couldn't be bothered "funding" the feeble Rheinland government, as that would make things look bad, and refused to apologize.
Each step of the way, Rheinland attempted to let the OSI preserve its lore based neutrality while being barely penalized - only to have the OSI CEO take a dump all over points that were debated at length by players, which rubbed them the wrong way somewhat. Time was wasted on nice gestures, so our frustration is showing. Plan B, which involves Rheinland reciprocating hostility with hostility would have been much easier to implement from the get go, and seems like an inevitability now.
Again, nothing is wrong with what the OSI did. Everything done was perfectly within Aazalot's rights to do as a player, and as someone charged with deciding the future of the OSI as a zoner offshoot faction. If that hadn't been the case, this wouldn't be a thread in the feedback subsection.
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(03-27-2013, 12:11 AM)Daedric Wrote: Both of you appear to me to be threatening ooRP consequences, which I honestly hope isn't the case.
I will say that if OSI characters (not players) have big mouths in game and aren't smiling and winking/subtle bribing local law and local criminals - than something is rather awry with OSI.
I also don't like to hear that OSI seems to have devolved into a ore/fuel power trading faction. Stygian/myself never forbid it, but we did our utmost to make sure there were also a ton of in role play trading going on.
/rant Anyways, I had to drop my dime in. Still love the OSI. I hope all of you are enjoying the faction too. Cheers. (I'll see all of you in that new RSI game years from now!)
I'm not threatening ooRP consequences, I'm informing the OSI of the ramifications of the inRP consequences. Since said consequences would drastically change the future of OSI as a faction, we're trying to be nice while preserving our RP.
Also, XD what did you expect? A standard recruitment faction with the best 5k in the mod, with the ability to dock anywhere is bound to attract people that are in it for the money (not that that's necessarily a bad thing). You should be pleased to know though, that there are still many OSI players out there that are deliberately hauling sub-optimal cargo to keep up with RP - which is nice.
