to the Admins

[Niezck]

Point is, however, different.
You attacked Manhatan with your entire fleet.
In RP that is called a suicide mission. Are you going to tell me that you had to attack Manhatan?
And are you going to tell me that you were provoked so you had to use capital ships?
I mean, you were 20 minutes in front of Manhatan (not 20k, i know very well you were first 2k away, and then 7k away from Manhatan) with an unlawful ID and Outcast Battleship.
You were begging people to attack you, with your own appearance there.
Also, transmitting in system "Smugglers and pirates have a safe passage near Manhatan" wasn't helpful.
I exactly knew that in 10 min tops you will have a horde of angry lawfuls to fight.
And are you going to tell me that we were all flying capital ships?
As i can remember, Liquid had a R.Claw, i had a Bomber, and the rest were fighter/bombers as well.
Only one Bcruiser that died earlier was a capital ship.
You were not provoked into a fight, you were looking for a fight.
And in the end, you took Battleship and 2 Destroyers out without any fighter/bomber escort.
Not a single one.

Try using those capital ships one by one, that is my point.
1 + fighters is max for Rogues.
Rogues aren't that powerful as you RP it.
"Cardamine made us rich" etc etc. It doesn't work.
Why? Because they can't hide Battleships and Destroyers, and they need.
And you are RP-ing an attack on Manhatan, while you should be hiding your capital ships from the navy.

My whole point is, you are a bit out of your boundaries, that's all.

1) You weren't there the two (or so) hours before when we first entered and had to face atleast 6 caps. Infact, i wasn't there on Graviton either. Only the destroyers were. They later called me in because they needed the heavy support.

2) I was atleast 10k away most of the time. Yes, at one point i was closer. I then moved away due to the defence grids. I also came closer later on when going to the aid of one of the Destroyers who, after restocking bots and bats during the peaceful part, was being chased by an independant BH BS.

3) I got disconnected before the others died so i don't know about escorts. But even if they didn't, which is likely, that's because a pirate fighter doesn't last 3 seconds when fighting the things we were. There were 2 Lane Security guys (atleast 1 was in a cap, didn't see the other), two or three USS (atleast one cap again), and then atleast one other independant cap. Those combined did all but destroy me, hence me running away. Unlike some, i don't actually like dying in my ship. Yes, i park it near Manhattan but only when it's clear to me that most of the "known" lawful caps have been killed and we're fairly safe.

4) We get capital ships because we need them. We can't even do regular pirating runs now without being jumped on by independant caps. One example being our 3 VHFs in Texas being attacked by a couple of Battlecruisers, a Gunboat and a single Fighter. We, the Rogues, are one of the main allies of the Outcasts in Liberty along with the Lane Hackers. The LR and LH combined do all of the Cardamine running in Liberty and as such are reasonably rich. While i realise that the Rogues are an assortment of generally unorganised criminals i was led to believe that player factions are the elite of thier NPC counterparts. Surely the "elite" of the criminal element in Liberty ought to be fairly intelligent and able to bargain and acquire, after some time, larger ships.

5) Have you ever seen Alcatraz? Regular gunboat patrols and god knows how many fighters there so saying that 1+ fighters is what we should use is complete rubbish. And yes i do realise that you don't see any capital ships there. The point is that the Graviton is effectively a floating base to us. It doesn't "dock" anywhere as such but parks just outside Alcatraz. It is restocked by people taking supplies FROM Alcatraz or similar stations (Rochester as an example). I admit that i do sometimes have to dock at certain bases to either log off or restock myself when nobody is online but from an RP point of view, it is a mobile base and flag to rally around.

~Grav