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Niezck,

Not a faction flame fest at all, trust me. I prefer the term "discussing", and this thread is made like it is.

1) If, when you first entered, you were in front of Manhatan and facing 6 caps, what can i tell you? Don't raid the Manhatan with capital ships only.

2) Ok, that is not too important anyway, you didn't shoot on ships as soon as they undock, that's for sure.

3) A pirate fighter can stand as long as he wants, no matter the capital ship numbers.
That is the beauty of flying a fighter. You can dodge whole day.
Trust me, it can.

4) You say that Rogues and Hackers are main allies, ok.
So, do you see LH flying Spyglasses and Destroyers near Liberty planets?
You don't.
It's not my concern how you acquired it, my concern is do you really need it, in RP.
Look at the name "Rogues" itself. They aren't supposed to fight off capital ships.
They are backstabbers, they disable Trade Lanes and Pirate Liberty corporations.

5) Get 10 Gunboats out and pwn everyone, you won't hear a word from me.
Rogues have their own Gunboat, and Gunboat is a ship that fits their needs best.
Destroyers and Battleships simply aren't.

Now, you maybe noticed that I'm not whining because you are pwning people or anything, I stayed alive, even killed one of your destroyers.
But that's not the problem, my problem is that it shouldn't be like that, really.
I was really glad when [LR] showed up as you were there to change the old Rogue faction.
Yes, you encounter 5 battleships, and then you must acquire battleships.
That is very easy to say, mate.
But, instead of acquiring battleships/destroyers blabla etc to counter other battleships, why don't you try countering them with gunboats bombers?
Everyone can say "I see hordes of independents and then we had to!".
And then chaos would cover the Disco.
Start with yourselves, and the rest of us will try to lower capital ship numbers that independents fly.
But first, Factions have to realize this, and then independents.

It's nothing personal, really. As i said, I'm not asking you to scrap anything.
All I'm asking is that you don't use more then one capital ship (not counting gunboats) at the time.

Look, If the BD faction, a much smaller organization than the rogues, can have a BS, I dont have a problem with the LR having one as well. And the LSF have 2, and 'theorectically' they shouldnt have any. And yes, the rogues make a ton of money smuggling, just not as much as the Outcasts. And the corsairs, BHG, and CR/BSG regularly sit in Alpha, and sometimes at Malta. So lay off chopper.

Duke,

If you search this forum a bit, you will see that I am a very passionate fighter for moving Togo BS to KNF instead of BD.
In more then 5 threads at least.
I totally agree Blood Dragons shouldn't use them as well.
But, the big difference between NovaPG and [LR] is that NovaPG use one Battleship at the time, the rest are fighter/bombers.
And, as i said, that is the best i can expect.
LSF as well, you will also find me in many threads preaching how LSF should look like.
So, no, [LR] aren't the only ones.

As for the BSG/CR thing, here it goes.
Though old BSG is not my concern, I will try defending that one as well.
From the time i joined, BSG never attacked Alpha with more then 1 capital ship.
And that 1 capital ship always had an escort of at least 3 to 4 Vipers.
We were never camping in front of Malta.
We would stay until the battle is over, and then leave.
As for the new BSG, we don't use capital ships.
Attacking planets with fighters is exactly what I'm talking about, that's the way it should look like.
Hit and run, you can't conquer it, you can't bombard it.
I have absolutely nothing against [LR] attacking near Manhatan in Gunboats and smaller.

Also, did you see me complaining when BSG attacked Alpha with 6 Vipers, and fought against 3 Battleships, 3 Gunboats and 2 Destroyers + some fighters/bombers?
Nope.
I have absolutely nothing against it, though it looks kinda silly, it is totally in RP.
We all died of course, but we took some of you with us. And it was fun.

So, no, I am not the bad guy here.:lol:

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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del