Judicial Order

[JudgeYohance]

I am sorry you had trouble finding the lore page. Let me try to answer a few of your questions and statements.

"- Your goal of "Reuniting the colonies" is novel. A sort-of UN charter to lay some ground rules to allow humanity in Sirius to operate as a whole in times of need coincides a lot with the Order's mission statement. However, some of the factions that would agree with you (Blood Dragons, Bundshuh) are caught as your enemies under the "Bring order to a chaotic universe / stem the tide of piracy" statements. Those goals are in conflict with eachother since the House goverments themselves are not in favor of unification. So those two goals can't be combined in the Discovery GC setting."

You are correct to some extent. I personally see the Blood Dragons closer to this then Bundshuh since the former were the government thrown into exile while the Bundshuh are more of a rebellious group of Rheinland. (I'll come back to this one since you mention this again later in the post).

" - Your faction will need to make a choice. Be an universal lawful mercenary group focused on counter-piracy - which would put you in the same role as the Bounty Hunters Guild, but with a moral high ground claim which could lead you into problems when corporations are proven to be without morals. The Reapers of Sirius are going on a similar tour, so that idea isn't new. OR be a politically oriented group which tries to use it's influence to unification. This would have you become allies only with political idealists. House megacorporations have no interest in unification, and neither do their governments which would see their power wane in favor of a pan-Sirian government. This would end up pushing the Judges in an unlawful direction for most houses."

There is a mid ground between the two choices you are listing that is actually our primary goal. I agree with you about the megacorps, some of our deals with a few of them have shown that. I also agree that on a general level the houses aren't interested in unification. That said the current RP realm of Sirius is actually already setting roots that we are trying to work with that can lead towards our goal. You have Bretonia and Rheinland both near crippled within the RP as a result of their wars. Kusari was left with a large portion of the fleet left in Bretonia and the rest of the house in a weakened state. You also have Liberty which just finished one bloody war and is about to enter another against Gallia.

I am currently writing several concept ideas on how to utilize these scenarios best for our goals but it gives us room to maneuver. The best way to unite humanity throughout history has always been to bring them to the brink. The current RP around Disco gives us a pretty good Brink to work with.

" - The early years of Liberty did not see any notable piracy, and the Liberty Navy oversaw safety for it's colonies. Unless the Judges were historically a branch of the Liberty Navy (or Order of Cincinnatus and later LSF) they would not have been involved with orbital safety in those times."

" - They would also not have been able to oversee Valhalla unless they would fall directly under the highest ranks of the Liberty Navy. If they wanted to break away and go rogue at any point after being involved with Valhalla, the Liberty Navy would have forcefully brought them back into their fold. The stakes were simply too high at the time to let people involved with Valhalla walk away, possibly to sell the secrets to other houses."

Before I get to far into this one, can I be sent a link to this information on the LSF in your next post please. All the information I found on LSF lore does not begin until 528 A.S. and the Order of Cincinnatus while was mentioned in that lore, had no date attached to it that I could find and no separate page of it's own .

I tried very carefully to craft everything to fit into "gaps" in the RP of all the established factions I knew we would be walking into. Liberty Navy according to the established lore does not exist until 230 A.S.. Near as I could tell, from the readings, their isn't any established lore about much of Liberty outside Ageria's lore prior to that date. The lore I created for this point had two goals in mind. Give us a heritage point to create an "old cast" of the group followed by a "new cast". The second being a means to pull us from Liberty prior to the creation of the navy.

"- The Jump Gate projects from Valhalla started around 125 A.S., planned by the Order of Cincinnatus. The first successful test was in 130 A.S., the first functional gate (Texas/Alaska) was finished in 180 A.S., and security of these gates was still a MILITARY affair, not some civilian space militia. If your faction was no longer under the Liberty Navy control, they would not have been involved with jumpgate security AT ALL. At most, they'd be an organisation similar to the Liberty Police Inc., tasked with planetary safety and crime surpression. Given that the LPI eventually became the main police contractor in Liberty, that would suggest the Judges got edged out of that market."

Here I did take license. As the official player faction does not exist, I simply utilized the original vanilla lore and ignored most of the player faction created one. After checking on a few other faction lore's and noticing some re-writes that were done when new groups replaced other ones, the feeling I got was as the official faction no longer exists and a rebirth of the group would be in their right to change it, I chose to work around it. If you feel that is wrong, I am sorry. My feeling is that as an unused lore, it can be chosen to follow or not. That said, depending on the LSF lore you are mentioning that I can't find, I will make the needed changes to make it cleaner.

Agree with that or not, as to the rest, keep in mind those other groups (with the possible exception of the mentioned Order of Cincinnatus which I will re-write to match against if you can get me a link to this particular lore), don't exist yet. I placed us in as the military that would have been used. Further, as the technology spread fast to the other houses shortly afterwards, it would make sense that Ageria would no longer be using one house military to protect the technology and would need something with better reach and a less house driven agenda to do so.

" - The "Library" base you mention would be virtually impossible to maintain within any house. It is plausible for it to have been set up in one of the vanilla Independent Worlds - or even on Planet Curacao. The Boormann Treaty would have guaranteed it's independence from any house. Keeping it's location secret, given the amount of resources needed to build up a base in a time where there weren't even any lanes, is very implausible."

I agree with virtually everything you are saying here. Which is why I intentionally did not mention in the lore where the base was on purpose. Nor did I mention what type of base it was for the same reason and kept in vague on how we could fund it. I have RP story attachments prepared for the future about this but for now I want it kept vague so I have work room depending on what paths we end up taking in the game RP later on.

Keep in mind that the rest of the RP in our lore indicates that we lost most of our own records upon it's destruction. Part of that vagueness comes from the fact that we don't have all the construction records left. The other part is because if I reveal the current working idea I have written for this, it ruins my wiggle room elsewhere in the RP for the time being.

" - This war in Bretonia in 317 A.S. I can't find any historical references to. Is that a fabrication? If so, your faction lore attempts to set the back story for several Bretonian factions, which is basically the lore version of powergaming. Official vanilla lore has Liberty bailing Bretonia out of a financial collapse around 271 A.S., which should have stabilised the house."

Jammi already said it but just to restate. I did take this directly from the BAF lore. I truly was trying to be careful not to step on toes as best I could.

" - You set your faction history as being allies of the Blood Dragons. This conflicts with your anti-piracy mission statement."

Not quite, at this point, the BD is the "true" government of Kusari in running exile. Since we would have been working with the government, it makes sense we would have supported them in a time of need. That support subsequently bit us in the butt for the long haul. I don't have us allied per se, but rather a small shared history. Whether or not this matters centuries later is up for the RP to decide. It was an addition to give us a reason to be thrown from Kusari and also to give us an added RP route to use or not later on. For now, we consider them a neutral party.

" - The post-80 year war mission statement of the group simply being focused around the protection of a single library is rather implausible to me: Only academics would seek to use such a library, and FTL communication had been made possible since the Liberty Communication Corps established FTL buoy commlines between the houses as early as 118 A.S., so any publically available knowledge would have been accessible on any planet or base already. If the Judges were hoarding classified intel (especially if it was stolen from Valhalla) the Liberty Navy would have sought out and destroyed them utterly as Liberty's existance depended largely on the Valhalla monopolies at the time."

"- Hiring the "smartest scientists" and "best pilots" is ambiguous. A quantum physicist wouldn't be helpful in xenoarcheological studies for instance. Clarify what fields of research you were following. "All research" is not acceptable. Doing weapons research or any research that could potentially threaten the security of the houses would draw the attention of said houses."

"- Being "attacked by an unknown military force" in 720 A.S. that destroyed their base? There are only a few organisations at the time who had the capabilities for such an attack. The only unknown ones would be the Order and the Nomads. Nomad infestation and subsequent annihilation of a large portion of the Judges by the Order is plausible."

I am putting these three together because you actually got half way to the answer on your own with these statements. Think about the modern day internet and the use of something like wikipedia. We all have access to it, so why do we bother with Libraries at all? I agree that academics would be the primary people seeking us out and that is exactly what we would have wanted. As for the rest, your choices are not bad ones but I actually had another possibility in mind but again, I am keeping this vague until some RP decisions are made in the game world. I wanted room to evolve these things over time based on in game events rather then set them in stone right now. It's a double edged sword as it does make it occasionally hard to follow what we are going to do next, but it also gives that evolving RP.

" - Please tell me that this "Project Leviathan" reference is not a cheesy attempt to get an SRP superdread, or claim to be the constructing party of the Zoner Supercarrier."

Dear god no. I have ZERO intention of trying for something like that. I can't tell you the number of "RP stories" I read that justify some of the bigger ships flying about that simply left me confused and annoyed. This is another RP idea I am kicking around for future use which I placed in as something we can embrace or throw away depending on later events. The vagueness on this also is connected to why I didn't make it specific what kind of "Smart scientists" we were trying to recruit.

I hope I answered everything for you. I know my style can be a little frustrating in how much I don't explain . I try to write RP under the premise of a constant evolving and changing system. As such, my lore stories are almost always have very detailed information and half barely intelligible. The balance is always aimed at leaving just enough to make you want to hear more and to give me the room to make that happen.

If you can provide me with this former LSF variant lore then I will do some corrections to avoid stepping on those toes. When I found the Wiki page was blank, I simply assumed it was an unfulfilled place holder. If I was wrong on that I do apologize and I will make corrections needed to not injure that lore.

Judge Senior Yohance

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