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Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me..
Offline Jack_Henderson
05-20-2013, 01:47 PM,
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You fail to see the psychology of the one playing as the victim in pirate (P) - trader (T) relationship. By the way, this is not the way I play. I only trade high value cargo and rp when stopped, pay reasonable demand or fight&kill or fight&die. Smile

The basic line of thought is for many when trading normal goods:
> losing a litte doesn't matter much.
> being blue messaged as a transport doesn't matter much.
> The pirate getting something useful is what matters.

Examples:

T pays P a high sum of money
> P wins valuable money.
> T loses valuable money.
> T admits his defeat by the green "money sent" message.
> T might lose more on the trip
=> not easy to take for some, especially with high demands because the T loses something and (!) P wins something

T gets blown up by P
> P wins by getting the blue (but transport blue messages are not worth much anyway and do not make P happy normally).
> T normally destroys his cargo (feels like "f**** yeah! You get nothing!" and often puts a smile on the face of the nearly dead T player. He managed to deny the winner any useful plunder)
> T loses hardly anything (only the buy-in price).
> T is blocked from the system (only slight nuissance, especially as pirates often log off and you can go wherever you want again).
=> Relatively easy to shrug it off for the T. It was a defeat, but the attacker got nothing of value.

T drops his (cheap) cargo
> P wins nothing (he is in a bomber/GB with no cargo space)
> T loses hardly anything (500k)
> T can even continue and just wave in the rear view mirror
=> very easy to take, as it does not even feel like defeat.

The pirate-trader interaction is pretty often about the unwillingness to give something you own to another person who tries to take it by force. Rather losing a little bit while not giving the winning party anything is a coping strategy against defeat.

It's rather immature, but if you look at it from a psychological point of view, it perhaps might make sense. Doesn't make it better, but perhaps it could be an explanation for the choices some people make.

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Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by sindroms - 05-20-2013, 10:19 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Knjaz - 05-20-2013, 10:34 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Huhuh - 05-20-2013, 10:45 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by jammi - 05-20-2013, 11:28 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Huhuh - 05-20-2013, 11:49 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Eduard - 05-20-2013, 02:04 PM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Pancakes - 05-20-2013, 11:13 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Narcotic - 05-20-2013, 11:15 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Anaximander - 05-20-2013, 11:33 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by TomMorse - 07-21-2013, 06:00 PM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Murcielago - 05-20-2013, 11:35 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Highland Laddie - 05-20-2013, 11:43 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Tachyon - 05-20-2013, 11:47 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by sindroms - 05-20-2013, 11:48 AM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Alvin - 05-20-2013, 11:54 AM
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RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Croft - 05-20-2013, 12:45 PM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Jack_Henderson - 05-20-2013, 01:47 PM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Prysin - 05-20-2013, 05:14 PM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by Jack_Henderson - 05-20-2013, 05:28 PM
RE: Peoples mentality about Piracy demands baffles me.. - by sindroms - 05-20-2013, 01:48 PM
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