Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF

[SummerMcLovin]

I'll provide a bit of background first.

John/Luke here bought Blackpool Production Facility quite a while ago. He hasn't had any serious problems with it nor caused it for us: I only really remember a few - of possibly John's - ships breaking a few laws about Nomad remains and jumpships, which isn't a real problem.

A few months ago, the Bretonian War Cabinet (take a look here) were considering making a base - some of the options we came up with were at New London, Southampton or the Manchester gate. John then asked us about building effectively the last option but on the Manchester side, which seemed pretty nice. After getting the base half-built, John had to leave for a while (telling me it was for at least half a year) so I took the base off his hands and kept it going with the help of the Merchant Navy and Bowex. Unfortunately being busy with exams and other factions, I hadn't gotten around to actually completing the station.

John then came back earlier than expected, and asked to buy the base back to finish it. After discussing it with the War Cabinet, we took the funds to restart our plans to build our own base in New London which we hadn't gotten around to.
While I was away in Portugal, John finished the base (albeit with a couple more platforms than we expected) and, like "BP1" it wasn't a serious problem for a few days I was around. However, either John or someone else in Blackpool Industries had went against the conditions I had set - keeping a password for us, then BPA IFF - if you can dock with the gate without being shot, the base doesn't shoot you. Even our docking rights had been removed, and I'd not even have been able to have a look if I'd not had a ship on there already.

I was then asked about more bases being built (I think there were plans for about five) which I gave a "no" to John about. Two was probably too many, and having the whole Manchester system in the hands of someone outside of the Bretonian War Cabinet would be seen as a problem. He also asked about putting a toll on the gate, another thing I was against. Although disappointed, John seemed ok with that too. Bellck (Mark_Brown here) later asked me the same thing and was a bit more insistent in trying to convince me. As you can see in the Blackpool Industries thread, these plans were there both in and out of RP. While I was initially happy for John to have some presence, things were getting a bit much.

John was happy to let me undo the changes outside the conditions, but I later heard about (as Xelon mentioned) Bretonian ships being shot, and Thry'zul which I found out about inRP too. Today in the Bretonia Lawful Chat on Skype, there was a lot of talk about changes to the base, selling it off, plans to again change the targeting and later - through Reaper - to be a toll base on the gate. John says this was trolling, but Reaper and I clearly thought it was serious given that he was really looking to buy it.

I logged onto the base and sat there for about twenty minutes as we discussed what to do in the War Cabinet. I suggested we might have to remove the base, Marcus thought about just removing the platforms. We discussed all of the changes and future plans, but then there was something else.

Well maybe he had bad bhg Reputation All can happend. But no as this one [C] passed I was testing rep etc , He just jumped out and base shooted on him it was an accident it wasnt my fault i dont wanted this but it happend one day ago from this post.

You claim it was an accident, but there is of course this:
[07:05:49 PM] John | Luke Walker: Inreason you will have fun sittin at base and waitin for arriving enemys as you set base to all hostile and see how they get blown up at outcoming

Which rather tipped things over, with you destroying Thry'zul on purpose. You had told him "I thought Council should be enemies because they are unlawful". If you were trolling Reaper about the base being a toll and selling it to him "Summer approved" when it wasn't, then it's not a stretch to have done it in other ways. The Council misunderstanding, randomly wanting to turn Core, fairly sure that your character has changed from a Zoner to a Colonial - these things backed up what I thought of you initially.
You are a nice enough guy, a bit young and with English not being your first language there is a bit of a problem with over-arching ideas on RP. I've been bombarded with enough questions on your part, but have answered and helped you out when it's not harming others.

What if the base becomes a real problem, hostile to all "by accident" or because you, another existing owner or a new one decide to? Any new player coming out of New London, or all the small transports who trade the easy routes between Liberty and Bretonia, they get blown up.
Karst summed up the need of using the password 'aggressively', if you'd decided you didn't want to cooperate then I get locked out and the base is turned hostile and effectively invulnerable. Bases have been somewhat unclear in regards to the rules anyway - how many early ones have been lost to random caps? My post afterwards is normally a lot more than you'd get from many, and covers the inRP reasoning and methods fairly well.
When we were looking to take out the base, it was doing it this way, or in the very likely event you didn't want the work to be undone then we'd have a long drawn-out deal of FR5ing all your stuff and sieging the thing.

As for the WC decision being "inapplicable", when it was between John and I over Skype then I was ok to take the blame as it was mostly my idea and I was the one who cleared the base (and could have destroyed it afterwards myself but had some help for ease). However, with the public thread I've asked the relevant members of the War Cabinet to post - Xelon, Nik (and Marcus who is in bed just now).
And while we're in the habit of quoting from Skype:
[07:58:40 PM] Soul Reaper: lol look at summer
[07:58:44 PM] Soul Reaper: acting like he cares
[07:58:47 PM] Soul Reaper: poor noob
[07:59:17 PM] SummerMcLovin: *ahem* off Reaper. I do care
[07:59:38 PM] Soul Reaper: am I supposed to laugh ?
[07:59:43 PM] Soul Reaper: "I care so much about the guy THAT I BURNED HIS BASE DOWN LOL"
[08:00:25 PM] SummerMcLovin: I care enough to know he is clearly upset and to recognise it was a dick move
[08:00:39 PM] Soul Reaper: but you did it anyway, summer ?
[08:00:44 PM] SummerMcLovin: Doesn't matter if I have a reason, but it still is

I forwarded this, and plenty of explanations and apologies to you. I'm not a heartless guy, I understand you are upset and have every right to be. I sent back the money you paid for the base, and you'll find no RP consequences for your other base since it is not a problem (even though you immediately thought I'd blown that one up too when I have not so much as docked on it).
I'm not denying what I did, but there is some inRP reasoning for the local law enforcement having a failsafe option, especially since this is what I had said was the case:
[20/05/2013 02:19:09 PM] SummerMcLovin: I think we'd be looking for it to inRP be a joint venture - the BPA/government control the defence part while you guys have it as an HQ and control the everyday running of the base

You'd be able to get almost all of this from John and I's Skype conversations over the past few months - other than the (for this step, necessary) 'surprise demolition' I've been pretty clear and open about the base. You are upset, but I stand by the destruction of the base, and going about it the way I am forced to by the game mechanics.


And I'll tack on Marcus' Skype reasoning for potential problems, since he won't be able to post for a few hours at least:
[09:18:03 PM] Marcus: Just remember the main points:
-The change from the IFF wihtout consolting us, which can lead to hostile forces being able to dock on the base
-The base had been shooting at passing ships, there is proof and a formal RP complaint in the matter
-Given the above and that he registered his base with the Bretonian goverment then he's entered into a contract in which is is obligated to uphlod the conditions in which he entered.
-As it was registered with us, then we have the authority to terminate their contract and end the base if they violate their conditions. The contact clearly states that BPA, BAF and BIS have FULL access to the base. Which also includes shields and weapons and so we're capable of removing the base.
-Given that he did violate his contract, then given the location of his base and the platforms he was entrusted with, then it was deemed that it was a threat to the safety of traffic along the lanes, expecially given that there have already been attacks.
-If you want to move into more oorp reasons then you include how he kept talking about handing the base over to other factions hostile to Bretonia and the 'plans' on tolling the gate.

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