Capital Ships and the Future of Discovery RP 24/7

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Actually the older players are bigger lolwuts- see the two blasted by inside bases in the last month for reference. SRPing everything that can shoot a fliea FTW!!.
Written RP does not exist-only lampoon self serving bending of the back-story exist. Only in-game actions count in my book.
The funny thing is that the old lolwuts think that the new guys are lolwuts because they does not follow their line of actions or because the new players are better at many things than the old players. SRP is flawed system controlled by flawed people that break and bend their own written rules when they self-serve themselves with SRP:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=100076


There are so much better things like game mechanics that are controlled by none and are same for everyone.
Good example of that is the cruiser missile- it is there it is in RP, it works the same for all ,unless you are hessians and got 2 missiles in one slot ,but well some are special as you already know.
Some dodge it, some whine , some pull the Lolwut card, some just give blue msg like man.

If you want to make the players to do or not to do something change the game mechanics,sadly game mechanics are not suitable for some people- that kind of people that blame for example the indie RNC in lolwutsism while quite the opposite they suit their role perfectly in good organized and skilled team.
Rules could be totally replaced by game mechanics.
You want to RP before shooting ?
-add small green msg that shows that you load your guns in 15k range, loading takes time- bigger the ship more time to load- like cruise drain. People out of boredom might want to say something at each other. Also add different type of CDs that blocks the engines for longer if there are people that prefer neither to talk or to fight. No more indies are nubs they shot me without RP etc.
You want one to stay out of system for period of time?
-add proper timing - you die you cannot log the ship for 2 hours, if you go with the same IP in the system where the blue msg happened then the server drops you too, period, no more I kill one in NY in order to PvP him 5 min later in Cali. No more indies are nubs they re-engage me etc.
You want to remove the hordes full of caps?
-np just use the DoD death penalty for killed caps combined with massdrivesrs crafting tool to make caps.
Loosing 50-100m each time when you die with cap would reduce the numbers, also rebuilding all exsisting caps in POBs would help. Indeed the caps must be scary then- now they have peepistols as ant-snub weaponry. No more indies are nubs they have hordes of battleships. Also I bet that the same indie RNC group would loose less battleships,people would continue to point fingers at than and they would be able to field much battleships just because they are organised and know their game and the options provided to them by the game mechanics.
You want your transp not to be raped by caps with 2 shots?
-np just add 95% shield resistance to cap guns on transp shields- it takes 2 min to change one text file..
And so on....
The only rules that should stay are 0.0 and the anit-cheating one.
The rest is done by the blue messenger- the only thing that is in RP and exist in the server.

The good thing in the whole story is that the old lolwut players soon would ruin this place so all of this issues would be gone:
http://www.flserver.de/topservers.php?timeframe=year
Note the average number 78 that was more then 150 around a year and half ago. Note the number 78 because it would become the number 100 after 4.87 realises in order to fail to 40-50 short after that.

Now, that was one hell of a post. I'm sure i understood half the stuff wrong, but here we go:

G13:...Actually the older players are bigger lolwuts...Written RP does not exist-only lampoon self serving bending of the back-story exist....

I agree that no new player is as annoying as an old troll, mostly because first could be either a) tought b)banned. As rules/administration is now its very easy to be lulwut and stay out of sanctions. I also agree with second point, it is the main reason why i avoid official fanctions: Rp is there mainly there to bend rules for the, 0.0 is silently forgotten. I'm sorry if you official and actually care bout RP, bout that is quite rare.

G13: ...You want to RP before shooting ?
-add small green msg that shows that you load your guns in 15k range, loading takes time- bigger the ship more time to load- like cruise drain. People out of boredom might want to say something at each other. Also add different type of CDs that blocks the engines for longer if there are people that prefer neither to talk or to fight. ...

And here my disagreements start. Camping gates becomes all more effective, for one. If there is 2min timer, people will start shooting exactly after 2mins. Some people who would otherwise go for diplomatic aproach will start shooting with such system. While such system is fine for you, we would like to have encounters that go deeper than 2min-n-die.
Oh, and I would absolutely love if CD had more limited suply, but would work longer. So pirate can CD,make demand and recieve response without spaming CDs.

G13: ...You want one to stay out of system for period of time?
-add proper timing - you die you cannot log the ship for 2 hours, period, no more I kill one in NY in order to PvP him 5 min later in Cali....

I agree that curent system is kinda shaky, but there is one bad thing about it that can be easily fixed: add /rematch <player> command, that if 2 players both each rematch, they can get it without switching ships.

G13: ...You want to remove the hordes full of caps?
-np just use the DoD death penalty for killed caps combined with massdrivesrs crafting tool to make caps.
Loosing 50-100m each time when you die with cap would reduce the numbers, also rebuilding all exsisting caps in POBs would help. Indeed the caps must be scary then- now they have peepistols as ant-snub weaponry. No more indies are nubs they have hordes of battleships....

Caps is also difficult topic, because for many fighter combat is (rightfully so) boring. If it would be rebalanced into something more dynamic, where fights dont last 10+ mins, where there isnt tons of regens that could be feed by cloaked transport, where 1 pro doesnt single-handly slaughter 12 new players without any chance for them, we would talk. Right now fighter combat is messed up.
When it fixed however, i would be happy to see cap amount cut down by 90%, while also rebalancing them so:
its difficult to sustain 1
dying in one is cosltly
killing one is difficult and can be considered great achievment.
I really dont like that even pirates have caps not worse than house ones.
And about transports: old rule worked quite nice, it kept 2 classes that should never fight apart.



PS: We are fine(server is dying), Rp will be alive (FWTOW coming soon), no need to cry about server dying (let it die so players could move into better fl servers)
EDIT: What I meant is I would be super happy if new RP server pops up.

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When "roleplay" around you seems to be diminishing... all you can do is be a new beacon of roleplay to light up everyone else's interactions.