Zoner Alliance Faction Feedback [ June ]

[Thyrzul]

Thyr'zul, sorry to say this, but you seem to think like you've soaked up all the wisdom from Disco, but you haven't been around long enough to even begin to have a clue of how things are, how they were, and why. You seem to put all your faith in a system you like to portray as near perfect, when the fact is that it is deeply flawed in so many ways. Phoenix was being ridiculed to a point where they dropped their name to sort of start afresh. Nobody deserves that, not ZA either. I'm inclined to believe that if ZA had carried an official faction tag, you and many of those who are hysterically against ZA, would be on their side.

I have stated already in other threads of this forum that I based my concept of the Zoner lore on infocards, wiki stuff and mostly on how I've seen and experienced others playing out their zoners. My standpoint would still regardless of ZA being official or not if as officials they would have tried to pull the same stunt. It's not that they are indies, it's just that they need to count with the inRP consequences of their inRP actions. And now the consequences of turning everybody around them against themselves are that now everybody around them shoot them. It's just that simple.

"Factions going straight against their own lore" is debatable - I'd say some of the respected official factions do so as well, but get away with it. Moreover, Zoner lore is so holed that there's ample justification for a group such as ZA's. I mean is it so hard to imagine that groups of individuals with access to a wide range of military tools, no accountability and seemingly endless resources go on the offensive? What is and isn't "within lore" seems to be something we just decide on ourselves, and if you've got a tag, your opinion is the right one. You more or less said so in one of our previous discussions, and that take on it is extremely naïve

Holed or not, there are basic principles laid down in that Zoner lore, at least one of those to which so far I've seen only ZA not being able or wishing to adhere to.

"Today the Zoners and their reputation are famous throughout Sirius. Some might even say infamous, depending on their point of view. Zoners are still struggling to reconcile their political neutrality with their desire for individual freedoms..."

Note the word "struggling". I did not really see any struggling to achieve said neutrality in all the attempts of Tri_Urdent to defame his attackers and refuse many of the negotiation attempts, should it come from Order, Phoenix, TAZ...

That is one thing I do not agree with. Another thing, you are talking about - among others - "no accountability" and "seemingly endless resources". How so? Should they get away with whatever they do? No faction lacks accountability for their actions, the least could be expected from civilians living out in the edge of space trying to survive. And from where do these civilians have those "infinite" resources to be able to build up fortifications capable to lock down the whole system within weeks and withstand sieges for days? Where is the roleplay or the lore basis of it? What lore backs up their claim that they are on par with the Order, moreover challenge them and their authority in the Omicrons?

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