The Order - Future Direction

[Tenacity]

1: Why would the Order ally with the Bundschuh or Blood Dragons? Because it was like that in Vanilla? The common enemy... the infected house governments... no longer exist. Because they are near Wilde systems? The house governments had more motivation to help the Order than those pirates.

Neither the bundschuh nor the blood dragons are your typical 'pirates'. They are political activists who are occasionally forced to use violence as a tool to achieve their ends, but both groups are respectable and have 'honorable' or 'good' intentions. Those seem to me to be far more likely choices for allies than the 'actual' pirates and criminals, which the corsairs and hogosha represent.

Despite being labelled as a terrorist organization, the order is still chaotic lawful at it's core.

2: Why does Order need any official allies at all? Thats contrary to secrecy. If they put a dockable Osiris base (fighters only) near the Wilde systems, Order dont need 'official' allies. Where ever they get their info and tech and resources... will be through secret sources from all faction throughout Sirius.

Just like any organization, the order needs a supply line. Having agents here and there is great, it provides information from areas the order cant actively keep tabs on, but that doesnt provide material to build ships, or fuel to move them. Further, the order is (or is supposed to be) an extremely small group, with only a few thousand members to it's name - and most of those are support personnel, not pilots or officers. The nomads are growing in number, just as they did during the first nomad war, and despite it's technological advantages (which, by the way, do not exist - order ships are no match for nomad ships, I fly both and can easily attest to that) the order simply cannot fight the nomads on it's own. It needs reliable allies to call on when the **** hits the fan, so to say - pilots and warships which can show up and assist in battle, when battle becomes the only resort.

3: Why do Corsaires HAVE to use Osirises? Why do Order HAVE to use tizonas? Because there once was a RP reason? Can't you let go of your little pvp advantages and personal ship preferences, for the sake of simplifying things? Osiris can be removed from Corsair systems in 4.86. If you tell every noob you see he cant use that with that because its not from the same faction, can't you make a little sacrifice and do the same, for the sake of simplicity and fairness? You cant undo RP? Eh... just have them mysteriously explode after the Order/Corsair alliance ended.

Do the soviet union's tanks and helicopters mysteriously explode because they went out of business? No, they're still in use around the world. This is a roleplaying game, and like it or not we have to make things as realistic or feasible as possible. Discovery has a linear timeline, you cant go back and erase things you dont like, unfortunately at times. The corsairs have been building osirises in their own shipyards for a very long time now, and that is simply something we cannot take away from them.

4: Do I gather correctly that some Order players were stopping Corsaires from smuggling artifacts where they wanted while they were still allied? WHY??? There is a simple RP explanation which can keep everyone happy as long as the alliance exists: Order gets the good artifacts from the Corsairs, the others get the junk. Why stop them? Only 'because you can'?

To my knowledge, the order has never stopped an artifact smuggler, not in my near two years of playing as a member of the order faction. The only time such a ship would be stopped is if it was breaking some other law, acting hostile, or causing trouble for the order that isnt related to it's artifact cargo.

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