Zoner Alliance Faction Feedback [ June ]

[Thyrzul]

Well granted the fact that you called "zoners" civilians

Why, what are they, hm? Soldiers? A vast military decided to act without the supervision of the houses? Because ZA seem to act like one, along with it's "Lord-Commander". No, Zoners are a diverse group, by no means united to an extent the term "Alliance" suggests in ZA's name.

claiming that jinx has false information

Quote me saying such in this thread. Or cut your lies.

And I don't select opinions, I think you all along the way stuck with your version of reality while ignoring the true ugly one

You claim not to select opinions, then you do pretty much that, categorize yours as the "true ugly reality" while you discard mine as "my version". Thing is, your "reality" needed two months to actually being backed up by an other person, don't you think that means something?

but when you raise a finger and point someone who is innocent, that is 100% innocent and turn it into a laughing stock, guess who would I be in favour with?

I don't find them innocent and I've stated my reasons not to find them innocent several times already. They made their mistakes, who else should bear the consequences of those mistakes than them?

@Thyrzul - okay, but if you put the pistol in the murderer's hand, do you bare no fault if you end up getting shot?

So, you are saying it's Cannon's fault then? Because he coded the system and he put the PoBs into the game, so technically he put the pistol in the hand of every potential murderer in this game. Is it his fault that people can't use them properly?

You may not have trolled ZA personally, but you did say they deserve to be treated with malice because of how they RP. You say they brought it on themselves. That's what I was referencing.

Not because of how they RP, but because how they ooRP. But yes, basically that.

And you don't just throw up a core 4 base in 5 minutes,.much less 4 bases with turrets. And in your guard system? I'm no detective, but that seems like it should have set off some alarms with somebody before it got to the point it has.

Not 5 minutes, but a day can be enough for that, or at least for two core levels. Either do it fast or do it silent. But it is pretty much possible in my opinion.

On an other note, it is barely relevant, as the Phoenix were all aware of the events, but as you've seen them commenting, they couldn't really do anything against it even when the bases started to pose a threat.

So, as I see it, and based on Quiron's response, it sounds more like Phoenix decided to do nothing more so than they "couldn't" do anything. And that's fine if they decide they don't want to police themselves that way because that's part of being a Zoner. But....decisions have consequences, and now they are obviously seeing the fruits of that decision, eh? That's why I think ZA shouldn't bear all the blame they are getting.

Not "do nothing so they couldn't do anything", but "do nothing BECAUSE they couldn't do anything". There is a huge difference between the two. As long as Official factions have little to no control over their indies, regardless of factions, those indies has to bear full responsibility for their actions.

It's their bases they can do what they want, infact given the situation I actively encourage them to keep it that way, thats sure to raise the pinheads blood pressure.

It's not just the pinheads, it's everybody who's apparently not on the list. It's not just the AI they piss off with it, but pretty much everybody they have already pissed off in the past. But yes, as you said, it's their bases, they can do what they want, and they will suffer from the consequences of what they do. Period.

if the ZA will not listen to the general za-hating-multi-double-standard-pinheads ain't much you can do now isn'ti t?

ZA seems to listen to nobody, so yep, there is really not much you can do unless Mr Udent changes his stance. But that's not something I expect him to do after all.

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