(07-01-2013, 11:21 AM)Anaximander Wrote: Well let me ask you this, would Corsair leadership have allowed some random person or group to put up 4 Core 4 bases in clear view in Gamma?
The fact that those 4 O74 bases are up goes to show that either the local Zoners approve, they are too inactive or they are unfit to rule. I think that is a totally fair assessment.
Besides I don't think it's fair to accredit the drama and "y u no rp" to ZA, I believe they could have been put down in-rp; and we could all have had a great Zoner roleplay war. Something good could have come out of it, we could have rolled with it, treated it as legitimate roleplay and acted accordingly within roleplay.
That's what I feel is so sad about this situation, and even though ZA might have planted the original seed of discord; it is the part of the community that goes all hysterical in their witch hunt that are truly to blame IMO. They escalated the conflict immensely; making it a nasty forum war with dumbass flood posts and stupid quotes bullying the ZA players, trying to score some cheap popularity points. I find it pretty despicable to be honest, no matter how "lolwutty" I happen to think ZA is.
I look at it as a test of the roleplay integrity of the players in this community, and most of us failed hard.
I completly agree with you -100 % correct - the problem is what do you do now? I seriously doubt that all of a sudden the lolwut,no rp, troll crowd or the now equally trolly za will get a sudden realization that they acted stupid no matter who started it and sort it out in a mature way. The community loves bullying and bandwagon jumping, but there are enogh that are simply happy if they can sow more discord and annoy others.
They won't wisen up, there won't be a rp rescue of the situation- even if some players still try to do so (kudos to them!). The community itself will lose no matter how the story ends, still we could try to migrate the damage...
@Jinx: i think it is a quite the difference between backing one single char or a complete faction. There is no way to back a faction ingame if it is bigger than 10-20 inRP members -and by all means you could always drive 10 caps in a system of a "dead" faction, erect a base and say "oh, no one stopped us, so we won" disco doesn't have the population to have "proper" and representative activity in any system, it simply doesn't work that way.
And the logic to presented that actions should be somehow sensible is superbly transferrable to the situation in 74 - one reality and logic check later and you will ahve no furhter rp reason why a teeny weeny faction should have claim to a system + 4 bases extra.
It was the oorp decision of the players that they wanted 4 bases, which is ok by all means but doesn't make it a sensible decision for rp either.