(07-02-2013, 08:34 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: This pretty much happened, where have you been in the past few weeks when Comm Channels got flooded with all the ZA stuff?
The talk I am talking about is a respectful one on one conversation in Skype. With a small group and mediators to keep things calm. Forums are not fit for this and we know how discussions end there.
Quote: What makes you think that after this ZA can be considered serious with their claims of wishing peace [...]
You cannot be sure. But if you do not try, you will never know.
Quote: [...] concerned about this could be abused... like he haven't abused anything yet or gave no reason to be shot on sight yet...
He was right. The base settings "neutral, only defend when shot at" is also abused big time. I saw the AI Cruisers all sport Zoner IFFs, and I am pretty sure they did it to camp the bases when the bases were Zoner IFF.
Quote:]All Zoner caps have the right to be present in O74
I was thinking and writing "AI", not "All". AI like in Artificial Intelligence toasters. They are the main body of base campers at the moment. Of course Zoner caps can be there. No reason why not. But the foreign caps need to go. All of them.
Quote:[...] nobody opposing them will trust them anymore, at least inRP for sure.
If you cannot trust to at least start reasonable talks, you can only go on doing what you are doing now. Wasting time on an impossible goal, and letting things slide further down. It's not getting better, that's for sure.
Quote: [...] our dear friend Tel-Aviv has stated clearly (while not having to do anything with ZA of course), that ZA does not trust Phoenix either and will not do so in the near future.
What Tel says and thinks in this issue is irrelevant. In an earnest attempt to talk he would not even appear.
Quote:You shouldn't neglect the fact that ZA exploiting the technical invincibility of their stations could pretty much be the definition of abuse of game mechanics in a Disco Dictionary.
That's only your personal pov, not a universal one, actually.
Mercarryn Wrote:Well, oorp mess has happened on both sides for sure , but if you want to know who started that, then have a look at ZA please.
The "who started it" question is also rather irrelevant if you want to solve it, actually. It also reminds me of my job. You approach quarrelling kids, the first things they to is: point at each other. "It was him!"
Quote:Seriously, now with their latest stunt, pulling all 3 Zoner offiicals into the dirt by powergaming ist another evidence, although I have to admit, a smart one.
It will be ignored, come on. Don't freak out. Work your Skype connections and make it disappear. Nothing is going to happen in the current anti-ZA atmosphere.
On the contrary: look at it as a good trigger to finally get serious about ending the mess. No one wants to get seriously harmed, do they? And, just as my personal view, it does not qualify as powergaming, at least not in my definition of the term.
