So hey, about the recent Zoner drama. Use it much?

[Sabru]

It is a dick move, and not a single one of you can deny that.

Absolutely right here.

Wouldn't it be best to buy your time and give ZA the benefit of the doubt, no matter how sceptical you are about them. Stop attacking them and their bases while they've set them to neutral and given them Zoner IFF, along with saying anyone is welcome in the system. If you do that and they keep things that way, then that would be the end of the war and things can go back to normal.

The problem now, and ZA are quite clever doing it. If any other Zoner factions was to attack their bases since they done this "as an act of solving things" and bringing peace back into O74, all it will do is make you look the trouble making culprits (not ZA). So just play along with them for now and see what happens.

Spitballing here, but whats to stop ZA creating fake alts and using them to cause trouble?

Guys, chill about the Zoner-Order leak story.

There have been worse revelations about factions' "unknown" but dirty sides and the only case in which faction diplomacy changed was the OSI-Rheinland incident, in which the OSI leadership accepted the development and - as I am told - actually wanted it that way.

I think the fear of "All Zoners will be red to Houses!" is unfounded. If it was that easy, my faction would be red to everybody and their stepmothers and pets, as well as every neutral faction would be auto-red to all Houses because of some screwup that simply happens sometimes.

Relax.
Look at it as an opportunity for rp.
Even though it is not the cool type of rp... believe me, as IMG I know that. It normally involves numbers followed by 6 to 8 zeros in fees plus some other things that are rather uncomfortable.

But still: Houses will not simply say "Baaaam! U Zonurz <3 terrorists! Baaaaam! FR5 on Zoner ID!" because actually there are sane players and FR5s (if they were filed, which I highly doubt) have to be passed to the Admins. And they would not agree with it, likely, as it would change the lore in more than one way for many many players.

And perhaps one little statement about my "skypelancer" comment: I do not say that I condone it. I just -know- that the discussion about it has already happened. Faction leaders talking about it, checking what the backgrounds are, checking on the context and how to proceed actually makes sense. I just worded it a little controversly because at the time I wrote it, this process was happening, and I found it funny.

I bet, the damage for Zoners will be temporary and it will be possible to cope with the fallout, in case the message is not rejected because of the oorp drama behind the whole thing.

Indeed no-one should panic, but if it is found out inRP that ZA did this they probably would screw any chance of co-operation they had.

i do have to ask,

have you ever been part of an official Zoner faction before? Because Zoner diplomacy is a lot more complex than some people think.

So yes, while not much might amount from ZA going to the house, on the flip side things might be completely screwed up for the official zoner factions. you never know.

I just wonder if it was done to serve ooRP grudges, or was it actually fully thought through.

The way i see it, it could go two ways for the ZA:

1. Nothing happens, and everything stays copasetic.
2. It causes all sorts of trouble for official zoners. if that happens, and if the officials find out inRP, ZA gets hoisted on their own petard.

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