Quote:So..best solution is for admins to put some extra work and "spy"/punish a little on server
while i agree in theory, in reality how do you expect them to do this while also doing all their other admin work and responsibilities?
hence the easier technical option of removing BSes from the standard Zoner ID.
I do also agree with Ed. A trigger happy lolwut nephilim with a zoner ID is much worse simply because of the lack of options for dealing with it compared to say... the house militaries.
a trigger happy LN dread can be dealt with by the Liberty goverment. Hell, even the sairs have some measure of means to reign in more...... wild indies.
Zoners, by definition not having any sort of cohesive structure, cannot do things like this. hence why a ZA style LN group would not have as much of an effect as the ZA have had.
Hence its also why the whole "do this for one, do this for all" argument isnt effective in this case. it doesnt really work because there is no other group slash ID that can compare to zoners.
the repetitive problems faced by zoners are unique to zoners, hence ideas like the OPs to put an end to the cycle of abuse and lolwutism that plagues zoners.