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Trade Bug Reports and Requests
Offline Karst
09-18-2013, 02:32 PM,
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(09-16-2013, 05:18 PM)Karst Wrote: ==============
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Okay, going to focus on the results of preliminary ALG trade testing.

ALG lost High-Temperature alloy from Wuppertal, Nuclear devices from Helgoland, and mining machinery from Dortmund while gaining nothing new in the process.

Helgoland has been effectively replaced by Neu Augsburg as a scrapping operation (the scrap field isn't actually activated, I'm assuming it will be)
However, is there a reason why nuclear devices were simply moved out of ALG production?
Neu Augsburg produces toxic waste, which makes sense, but nothing else.

All three bases have a similar issue: they import a huge variety of goods, but export almost nothing.

This does not make sense given what they are: industrial facilities, refineries and smelters.
It is particularly noticeable with Wuppertal.
It offers high or even top prices for everything from Basic Alloy and Bio-neural processors, to Yttrium and Zinc and yet it only produces MazMat canisters.
With such a variety of imports, you'd expect it to produce a greater variety of goods as well, specifically alloys and various industrial goods.

Another thing that seems strange is scrap metal: ALG collect scrap, but apparently don't process it: why is scrap metal sold on shipyards rather than a smelter?
Suggestion: Move a scrap metal sell point to Dortmund rather than Oder.

Aet: Offer some suggestions for what they should be selling then? Manifolds, maybe, will need to see if that fits with the economy.

No changes made. Further input needed.


Okay then, let me elaborate a bit.

I'd like Ship Hull Panels to be re-added to Dortmund, and this time at a competitive price.
To quote an ALG NPC in the bar:
"ALG ship hull panels supply the civilian shipyards in Hamburg, Honshu, and New York [outdated]. Our only competitor is Stokes Smelter in Leeds [and Kyushu]. BMM is using outdated production methods that are less cost-effective than ours, so we are confident that ALG will soon own all of this market"

Aside from that, with the other two sell points being in the far west of Sirius, it would make sense to have another in that region.

As for scrap: Shipyards produce it as a byproduct of ship production. -Smelters- buy it for reprocessing. Scrap metal is basically industrial and construction waste.

That is exactly my point: Shipyards should if anything, be exporting scrap, not importing it, but right now Alster and Oder will pay decent prices for scrap while none of the ALG bases will pay anything at all.
Thus my suggestion of having Dortmund, rather than Oder, import scrap.

As a consequence of that, Dortmund could export Manifolds - to function as a Smelter, as it should.

MOX production meanwhile should be shifted to Wuppertal - it's my understanding that MOX is made by processing Toxic Waste, which has moved from Dortmund to Wuppertal.

Generally, it would make sense to have Dortmund, as a smelter focus on metallurgic products, and Wuppertal, as a refinery, focus on chemical products.

Not entirely sure why High-Temperature alloy was removed, both infocards still mention it. Under the suggested setup, it would make more sense to move it to Dortmund.

Some more suggestions for Wuppertal exports: Hydrocarbons/Petrochemicals/Plastics. I think it's fair to assume that a great proportion of toxic waste is made up of hydrocarbon-based compounds, so the extraction and processing thereof would make sense for a refinery.

Nuclear devices - we had these before, and it would make sense to have the plant that processes toxic waste use the radioactive waste they process to produce new reactors (along with MOX). Given that these are very complex devices, it would also explain some of the huge variety of imports the station receives.

I'll leave it at that for now, maybe I'll think of some more stuff. Thank you for your time.

Edit: Double post, oopsies

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Messages In This Thread
Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Xoria - 12-31-2011, 03:55 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by GrnRaptor - 09-17-2013, 03:45 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by GrnRaptor - 09-17-2013, 08:04 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by poolboy - 09-17-2013, 09:45 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by djordje_petrovic - 09-17-2013, 11:51 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Karst - 09-17-2013, 04:26 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Tabris - 09-17-2013, 08:24 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Xoria - 09-24-2013, 06:03 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by djordje_petrovic - 09-18-2013, 12:28 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Karst - 09-18-2013, 02:31 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Karst - 09-18-2013, 02:32 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by DeathsOverture - 09-19-2013, 12:39 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by GrnRaptor - 09-19-2013, 10:53 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by djordje_petrovic - 09-20-2013, 07:31 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Zen_Mechanics - 09-20-2013, 10:40 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Duvelske - 09-20-2013, 11:17 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by djordje_petrovic - 09-20-2013, 02:44 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by GrnRaptor - 09-21-2013, 03:12 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by GrnRaptor - 09-21-2013, 06:51 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Zen_Mechanics - 09-22-2013, 11:04 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Lythrilux - 09-22-2013, 11:09 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Zen_Mechanics - 09-22-2013, 11:26 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by mwerte - 09-22-2013, 11:29 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Lumik - 09-22-2013, 11:38 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by GrnRaptor - 09-23-2013, 06:19 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Plan-B - 09-23-2013, 08:22 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Duncan Farquar - 09-23-2013, 11:04 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Lumik - 09-24-2013, 12:19 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Xoria - 09-24-2013, 12:39 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Zen_Mechanics - 09-24-2013, 11:33 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Xoria - 09-24-2013, 05:21 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Zen_Mechanics - 09-24-2013, 07:04 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by wodalin - 09-24-2013, 10:37 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Echo 7-7 - 09-25-2013, 12:29 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Anomander - 09-25-2013, 12:31 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by AeternusDoleo - 10-03-2013, 08:44 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Xoria - 10-05-2013, 03:36 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Pavel - 10-05-2013, 05:33 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Ponge - 10-06-2013, 10:31 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Karst - 10-07-2013, 01:14 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Xoria - 10-08-2013, 02:58 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Vulkhard Muller - 10-08-2013, 03:39 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by GrnRaptor - 10-08-2013, 10:43 PM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by Plan-B - 10-09-2013, 08:03 AM
RE: Trade Bug Reports and Requests - by APDAF - 10-10-2013, 11:11 PM
4.87 Economy balances reports - by Duvelske - 09-15-2013, 03:02 PM
RE: Biggest 4.87 fail ever - by tothebonezone - 09-15-2013, 03:04 PM
RE: Biggest 4.87 fail ever - by Duvelske - 09-15-2013, 03:14 PM
RE: Biggest 4.87 fail ever - by SeaFalcon - 09-15-2013, 03:22 PM
RE: Biggest 4.87 fail ever - by Widow - 09-15-2013, 03:24 PM
RE: Biggest 4.87 fail ever - by Scumbag - 09-15-2013, 03:25 PM
RE: Biggest 4.87 fail ever - by DeathsOverture - 09-15-2013, 04:00 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by KaiserDietz - 09-15-2013, 09:46 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Pavel - 09-15-2013, 11:31 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by DeathsOverture - 09-16-2013, 01:05 AM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Ponge - 09-16-2013, 11:10 AM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Karst - 09-16-2013, 05:18 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Zen_Mechanics - 09-16-2013, 07:11 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Highland Laddie - 09-16-2013, 07:27 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Moberg - 09-17-2013, 07:14 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Mephistoles - 09-17-2013, 07:36 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Siegfried - 09-17-2013, 09:58 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Mephistoles - 09-19-2013, 07:15 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Zen_Mechanics - 09-20-2013, 08:55 AM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Jack_Henderson - 09-20-2013, 09:20 AM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by GrnRaptor - 09-20-2013, 09:56 AM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Plan-B - 09-20-2013, 01:53 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by yardworker - 09-20-2013, 07:51 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by AeternusDoleo - 09-21-2013, 04:37 AM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by Duvelske - 09-21-2013, 09:22 PM
RE: 4.87 Economy balances reports - by GrnRaptor - 09-21-2013, 10:40 PM

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