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NPCs are damn too strong.
Offline Sarawr!?
10-30-2013, 02:02 PM,
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(10-30-2013, 02:18 AM)Pavel Wrote: Before you read the whole text, remember this is coming from a guy who spends 80% of his disco time playing on the lawful side.


Over the last two weeks I tested unlawful gameplay in all Sirian Houses, and I can say this: it's horrible to play as pirate. Lawful NPC patrols are everywhere, and they're strong, stronger than in the previous version. While they already were nerfed, so group of few hostile NPCs can't deshield cruiser in no time anymore, they're still too strong.

What's the point of logging lawful ships and patrolling, what's the point of hiring Bunters by miners, if lawful NPCs provide constant, ever-spawning protection? Do the NPCs really need shieldbusters, strong mines and missiles?

I want to play with other players, not with NPCs, here's my (will be too drastic for some, I know) proposal - nerf NPC guns to level 1. They should have no impact on player-player interaction; should be mere decoration so the available world doesn't look "empty", but nothing more than that. Removing trade lines' defences is pointless if NPC patrol is able to deal far more damage than any trade line turret could ever do.


In my opinion current NPC level makes playing as a pirate nearly impossible. It disrupts traditional trader->pirate->navy food chain, removes antagonist element from it. An unplayable for the unlawfuls mod is a dead mod.

(10-30-2013, 02:25 AM)Durandal Wrote: Completely and whole heartedly agree. As I've said before it's not a PvE server. Challenging NPCs should be kept to places they're actually needed.

I completely agree with the sentiments of both quoted posts above.

As some of you might know, I recently started a Blood Dragon group, those are Kusari unlawfuls, for those of you who don't know.

Now, after playing solely lawful or neutral characters for quite a long long loooong time, I was fairly, and unpleasantly surprised, at just how powerful and ever present, lawful NPC patrols were.

I really do not think that they need player weapon loadouts, it's crazy.

I was in full cruise the other night, when a Kusari Naval Capship patrol spawned in front of me, and nearly killed me, instantly, while I was in cruise....am I the only one who thinks that isn't right?

NPCs are a part of the background, a part of the environment, something to make people go "Cool, this seems alive", not "Oh god oh god NPC patrol, WHAT THE FFFFFFF-"

Bases guns and Jump gate guns are already powerful enough to quite frankly irritate people, adding NPC patrols armed with player loadouts is just, infuriating.


So yes, this is something that I think needs to be changed.

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NPCs are damn too strong. - by Pavel - 10-30-2013, 02:18 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Champ - 10-30-2013, 02:24 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by bloogaL - 10-30-2013, 10:07 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Durandal - 10-30-2013, 02:25 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Pavel - 10-30-2013, 02:37 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Champ - 10-30-2013, 05:52 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Luke. - 10-30-2013, 02:37 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Vigilia.Procuratio - 10-30-2013, 02:37 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Technogeist - 10-30-2013, 06:01 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by SnakThree - 10-30-2013, 06:01 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Pavel - 10-30-2013, 06:07 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Curios - 10-30-2013, 06:20 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 08:55 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Jack_Henderson - 10-30-2013, 10:18 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Alphablood1 - 10-30-2013, 10:24 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Thyrzul - 10-30-2013, 10:24 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by ~}P{~ Legendary - 10-30-2013, 10:44 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Syrus - 10-30-2013, 11:10 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by AeternusDoleo - 10-30-2013, 11:53 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 12:00 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by bloogaL - 10-30-2013, 12:01 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 12:13 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Curios - 10-30-2013, 12:15 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 12:18 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by AeternusDoleo - 10-30-2013, 01:10 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Curios - 10-30-2013, 01:51 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by bloogaL - 10-30-2013, 02:04 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Curios - 10-30-2013, 12:13 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Syrus - 10-30-2013, 12:57 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by LunaticOnTheGrass - 10-30-2013, 12:20 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Curios - 10-30-2013, 01:03 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Vrouw - 10-30-2013, 12:26 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by AeternusDoleo - 10-30-2013, 01:45 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Sarawr!? - 10-30-2013, 02:02 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Highland Laddie - 10-30-2013, 02:17 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Curios - 10-30-2013, 02:20 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by bloogaL - 10-30-2013, 02:24 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Durandal - 10-30-2013, 02:26 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Vrabcek - 10-30-2013, 02:56 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Syrus - 10-30-2013, 03:35 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Jack_Henderson - 10-30-2013, 03:56 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 04:26 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Tankman - 10-30-2013, 05:02 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 05:05 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Sarawr!? - 10-30-2013, 04:44 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Haste - 10-30-2013, 05:18 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Murcielago - 10-30-2013, 05:02 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Sarawr!? - 10-30-2013, 05:14 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Valrin - 10-30-2013, 05:23 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 05:33 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Karst - 10-30-2013, 05:35 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 05:39 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Tankman - 10-30-2013, 05:44 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 05:46 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Pepe - 10-30-2013, 06:08 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by JD.Bane - 10-30-2013, 06:26 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Yber - 10-30-2013, 07:09 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-30-2013, 07:18 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Xalrok - 10-30-2013, 07:25 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Vrouw - 10-31-2013, 05:19 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Valrin - 10-31-2013, 05:47 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Veygaar - 10-31-2013, 05:52 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Scumbag - 10-31-2013, 07:53 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lonely_Ghost - 10-31-2013, 09:23 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by JayDee Kasane - 10-31-2013, 10:21 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Curios - 10-31-2013, 08:52 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Pepe - 10-31-2013, 10:20 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by LunaticOnTheGrass - 10-31-2013, 10:23 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Luke. - 10-31-2013, 03:20 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Lythrilux - 10-31-2013, 07:10 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by AeternusDoleo - 11-01-2013, 11:27 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by aakopa - 10-31-2013, 03:42 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by GrnRaptor - 10-31-2013, 07:20 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by tothebonezone - 11-01-2013, 11:45 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Cuttsy - 11-05-2013, 02:27 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Swallow - 11-05-2013, 02:34 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Syrus - 11-05-2013, 02:47 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by AeternusDoleo - 11-05-2013, 05:00 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Cuttsy - 11-05-2013, 03:17 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by AeternusDoleo - 11-05-2013, 04:52 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Corpse - 11-05-2013, 03:43 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Cuttsy - 11-05-2013, 03:54 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Dratai - 11-05-2013, 04:16 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Dratai - 11-05-2013, 05:21 PM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Zuretz - 02-06-2014, 02:15 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by tothebonezone - 02-06-2014, 02:21 AM
RE: NPCs are damn too strong. - by Pavel - 02-06-2014, 02:28 AM

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