concerning factions and their influence

[Mímir]

Discussion is all fine and well but I for one would like to know what limits the dev team would be go to in terms of ships and resources (cloaks, removing stuff, PoBS etc.) If we have an idea about what changes would be acceptable things would be much easier.

Why are you so hell-bent on making these limitations? What are they really good for? Also I find it so fucking ridiculous that players keep saying "lets limit battleships to official factions" when 9/10 of the official factions have no interest in capital ships and capital ship combat but solely want to use them as talky-talky platforms. Why do you want to take something away from other players that you don't even want yourselves? Something that devs and balance monkeys spent hours on developing and fine-tuning, even adding new mechanics to make capital ships shine. What is that going to fix?

I'm fairly sure the dev stance is: We spent a long time creating this crap and if you are too useless to play with our stuff, that's your problem. At least that would be the stance I would take towards the extremely conservative "let's bring back 4.83" players. Factions could have embraced the "new reality" of the mod after each update, rather than whine and cry for a rollback to glory days (that weren't really that glorious), it's your own fault people don't want to play with you. For instance I have a Legate I would like to play in groups, but there's no official faction to park it in - why not? Because there are some old fart snubwhores who would prefer we were all playing 4.83 - but we are not, so it is your job to embrace it*, really, rather than whine and wanting to limit other people's fun. You should channel that energy into making yourselves attractive rather than take the lazy approach and asking devs/admins to push people into your arms. If your faction consists of old, negative naysayers, kick them out to get with the times - or just let the faction die and let more progressive people take over. I don't get how you can become so extremely narrow-minded, it is really not healthy on any level.

It is no use that faction players sit around and come up with solutions to all the world's problem in a narrow circle of totally like-minded people. They've done that as long as I have played, and will continue no matter what limitations you put on indies/battleships/cloaks. I'm pretty sure admins and devs are fully aware of this, which makes it all the more pointless. It seems to be a way of life for some faction players to constantly moan about how hard they've got it - when no one is forcing them to play in a faction this is so incredibly childish it is not even funny.

Tl:dr: It is your own fault you are unpopular and if you are in doubt why, take a quick peek at your own suggestions in this thread and the other.

*Some factions do this and tend to be more popular

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