[BU] - Bundschuh

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[quote name='Warien' date='Mar 12 2008, 01:01 AM' post='202290']
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Funny, I've never seen a [RM] char engaged while I'm trading.
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Unless you trade from the Ring to New Berlin and back during the whole day, I'd say this isn't exactly the best "vantage point" to state that.

[quote name='Warien' date='Mar 12 2008, 01:01 AM' post='202290']
Again, I apologize for some of the actions of our members, but most of our members ARE new to the community. Most of them don't understand the general flow of the way things work here yet.
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And still you feel running your own faction is the way to go.

[quote name='Warien' date='Mar 12 2008, 01:01 AM' post='202290']
I'm the only one who has played Disco for awhile now, but we're all doing our best to pull things together. Most of us can RP well, and I'm sure you'll see that.
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What I've seen so far is PvP jumping at the RM.

[quote name='Clayph' date='Mar 12 2008, 02:41 AM' post='202300']
That was because we wanted people to 'see us' in action?
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Seen, didn't like it.

[quote name='Clayph' date='Mar 12 2008, 02:41 AM' post='202300']
I don't know, WHERE did you get that and I don't care about that. Bring me a proof
of BU member saying that eh? :angry:
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That wasn't meant literally. This is a community jargon used to describe a behavior.

[quote name='Clayph' date='Mar 12 2008, 02:41 AM' post='202300']
Hell.. We spent our time and money to set up faction we WANT TO
create..
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We are so closely allied to RHA that it's almost the same.. So please don't mess our efforts being good RP faction..
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Hmmm... that's catchy, because RHA and Bundschuh weren't supposed to be the same at all from an RP standpoint. Even if you extract almost all of the RP aspect from them and go down to the PvP part I still don't agree. One attacks the RM from Frankfurt, the other attacks the RM from Dresden, and the Corsairs in the Omegas. That's like saying Liberty Rogues and Xenos are the same...

[quote name='Rashnok' date='Mar 12 2008, 03:20 AM' post='202311']
I think one of the issues that we might be having is that quite a few of the BU, at least, almost all of those that came from where we came, are fighter jocks. That is, we enjoy PVP... a lot. I sounds like many of us have been trying to RP, but RP in a very aggressive manner, trying to get more PVP. It appears as though we had some misconceptions, such as people enjoying PVP just as much as we do.
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Most of us enjoy PvP, but we (I) enjoy RP oriented PvP better, or rather, RP supported by PvP (and that doesn't even mean that there's got to be an actual fight, just that there's a possibility.

[quote name='Rashnok' date='Mar 12 2008, 03:20 AM' post='202311']
Probably should have taken a little time to get a feel for the server, but what's done is done. I, for one, am trying to adapt my tactics to the atmosphere of this server more.
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Then we go again to the point when I told someone of your group to wait about creating the faction...

[quote name='Rashnok' date='Mar 12 2008, 03:20 AM' post='202311']
Edit: And on the note of creating characters before being approved, I looked through the forums, maybe not closely enough, and was unable to find anything that actually said that you could not create a character with the faction tag in their name. Wondering if I had missed something, I also asked around on the server and it seemed as though it should be fine. If creating the characters before official acceptance was such a major grievance, all I can say is that I'm sorry, but the rules did not appear to explicitly say so.
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When I mentioned creating characters before approval, I didn't mean you were breaking any rules. I meant you went ahead of things and started the faction regardless on the community's feedback, even though you were here, asking for it. That makes me feel like you're not really interested in that rather than just an official "go ahead". It's like asking someone's opinion just to turn around and do something else while they are giving it. I think it's rude, and I don't mean just from you guys, but by everyone doing it. I think it's a lousy practice.

[quote name='Gryph' date='Mar 12 2008, 03:25 AM' post='202314']
EDIT: on the other hand, it doesn't matter, because I'm done here. No hard feelings, and nothing against the community, but things like this:

"I dunno about you, but I can only stomach so much combat. Part of the reason why I don't come on very often anymore."

Just don't describe the kind of game I want to play.
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[quote name='Sabas' date='Mar 12 2008, 08:06 AM' post='202410']
What I'm interested in is where your seeing this, I would like to talk to the members that are doing something along these lines and get it set right.

I've recieved reports from some of my pilots of this matter and had I known this was going on I would of corrected it sooner, but I'm sorry for whats happened.
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Again, it's about behaviorism.

[quote name='Warien' date='Mar 12 2008, 09:33 PM' post='202876']
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I'm not saying you guys don't get combat, but when you say it's rare that you submit a combat report without an engagement...

...it's rare that I submit one without more than three.
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It's rare when I have the time and will to write the report based on all the random PvP oriented idiocy I experience in game (something about being difficult to RP certain bizarre events).

[quote name='Warien' date='Mar 12 2008, 09:33 PM' post='202876']
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As for joining the RHA... again, we enjoy seeing people from our faction actually on the server. Nothing against the RHA, I still maintain a character there, but the activity is lacking. That, and most of us have played a different mod together for over three years now, and we're a pretty tightly knit bunch. We also like to run things OUR way. :-)
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When I first joined the server I too came in with a bunch of friends and they too wanted to create a faction of our own. We were here for two weeks and they all wanted a faction, battleships and the sort. Then I told them we'd be better off joining the existing factions. I did, the rest ended up losing interest and leaving. If we did that, today I'd be the happy bearer of a dead "faction"'s tag. Not the point really. I just wanted to point out that this is a natural feeling for groups that come from outside, but not necessarily the best way to go.

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