Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships

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For the people who are interested and for who its not to long to read to get answers to what they said to me:

I bumped into your character on a couple of occasions and found it very irritating, doubly so because I couldn't get rid of you since you were permacloaked.
In essence, it looked like a 'troll character' - for lack of a better phrase - or a very, very confused morph. Something about it pointed to the former, though.

And if you bump into people's char it's their fault? Troll characters dont leave people alone when asked to. There are hundreds of those here, that talk in system chat, that bug you and then run around in light fighters that you cant hit, that you cant get rid of, or that you cant even survive the encounter against, because they always win any pvp. As already said, if someone sent me any indication that they felt annoyed or irritated I always left them alone. Some did that IRP, not a single one //ooc. If you bump into me agian later while I'm talking to someone else, not my fault.

If it irritates you that you cant get rid of someone that you bump into and who was RPing with someone else, maybe you're the one who needs to rethink their attitude.

You should probably work on the initial impression your character delivers, since it earned you a /ignore on my part.

The initial impression you get is mainly governed by your own assumptions made on the very little that you see at first glance. What I perceived was that the more people chose to interact with me the more they enjoyed it, and for the ones that chose not to interact with me further, I respected that. If you give /ignore after an initial impression, that's your right but also your own problem.

The character might have potential, but you should probably look more towards Treewyrm's and Moveit's advice rather than dismissing it as being "of no value".

Then again, if you're having fun with what you're currently doing and planning, nobody is going to be able to stop you from continuing along that route. I just wouldn't expect a whole lot of co-operation from others with your current attitude, if I were you.

I got a whole lot of co-operation from people who were open minded enough to RP back even if their initial impression may or not have been good or bad.

If some people dont want to co-operate with me thats perfectly fine with me, I dont insist.

I'm not the one who insisted on co-operation from Treewyrm&co, I'm not the one who made this complaint thead. You guys are asking for my co-operation, which according to you should look like me behaving exactly the way you want, while you are not willing to listen and who brush asside my arguments by making up more and more things that are not true or that never happened. A little more on that below.

Thing is, a Nomad ship is not a ship. It's not the Nomad itself, or rather one of it's forms. It has no cockpit, it has no machinery. It is a living thing. The "cloak" is a part of the being's ability to shape light around it, not some "attachment". No, this is not some excuse to get you to change, but rather what the established lore has been from day one, Disco or otherwise.

So while your RP is interesting, and is a different thought process with regards this whole thing, using a Nomad Morph that has a human (hybrid or not) inside it and piloting it doesn't work because of the above, hence why the recommendation is to use another ship. It's like saying you killed an Elephant, ripped out it's guts, and you sit in it and are somehow able to move it/control it/ensure it doesn't decompose. It's not how it works sadly.

You're taking it as an excuse to attack your RP. People may not agree with it, but it's not attacking. It's providing you with the lore behind such actions, and explaining that part of it is impossible to do.

This is quoted from the discovery nomad lore 1.31, on the subject of nomad ships:

To maintain form an extremely strong bone structure is created to hold the skin, organs, tools, equipment [size=20]and any hybrid pilots[/size in place.

What a bummer, ey?

This thread was made for nothing else than to attack my RP. People here who say that have never even met my character are now lecturing me about things they asume I'm doing, stating things that are straight out wrong, which they only assumed to be right because they heard someone who they think must know more say, and then some if them IRP repeat it to me ingame on characters that have never met mine before.

My only issue was that by no means I could make sure you are in scanner range when I type something. There were minor signs only, e.g. you were generally flying around the CLT La Dijonnaise as you met that one first, and then I saw you asking about it when we split for a moment in Newcastle, from that I also knew you came with me, but that's all. To me that was the only frustrating part.

Not knowing if an invisible person is still there while talking to them has been exploited for comedy in a lot of films, it's up to the individual person if he chooses to be frustrated or annoyed or amused by it. I remember you as one of the friendly and open-minded people ingame and I thank you for that.

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"Get off my lawn!"
To be perfectly honest, yes, it is a bit of that. But the players here who are saying "doh!" are the ones who cultivated that lawn and know it best, and while all the attitudes might not be polite, they are trying to guide. Treewyrm has spent more time than anyone I know guiding people and helping them understand Nomad roleplay. That should be given some respect.

I respect that he did interesting systems and models (as far as I know) and that he spends his time to make them, but does that mean I have to agree with things that I know are straight out wrong? More on that later in the post.

But it still has to be within a scope of.. some kind of logically-explainable-nonpowergaming-RP? I have no damn clue. Haha.

All of my logically explainable RP is logical, and not powergaming. What is powergaming is to say "your char cant talk because I say she cant", or "cant fly in a nomad ship", or "cant be a hybrid" while there is no logically explainable reason why not, and there are plenty of examples that other people did it, that the lore says it can happen, and that even the people who say I cant do it did they exact same thing.

But I do wonder one thing, is it straight impossible to RP human-ish like on certain occasions?

There are plenty of reasons in the Freelancer nomad faction description to say that they can, because they are very adaptable. What is totally unrealistic is to say that nomads can infiltrate the highest positions in governements, posess human bodies, undertand human psychology, communicate with them telepathically, but that its absolutely impossible for them to talk in correct english.

Like.. What's more annoying now? Nomad talk? Or a nomad/hybrid talking like a girl who's missing a few teeth and sounds funny as hell?

My personal impression that what annoyed certain people was not actually what was happending, but that they thought that something was happening that the disco-gods did not give their personaly signed permission to.

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