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Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships
Offline Spud
01-25-2014, 04:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-25-2014, 04:42 PM by Spud.)
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Karlotta
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While re-reading it I discovered something else interesting though:

First question in disco lore FAQ:

Quote:Did Nomads and Daam K'Vosh wage war against each other?

According to Nomad faction story no such event took place in Freelancer universe, Daam K'Vosh have simply vanished from Sirius space leaving powerful artifacts for their creation to find upon birth and evolution. The motives as to why Daam K'Vosh left Sirius leaving the Nomads alone are left in mystery, and the Nomads themselves whether they know it or not would not remain silent.

Funny part is that if you really read the Nomad faction story, it says:

Quote:But at some point the Daam-K'Vosh departed Sirius and the Nomads were suspended, frozen in time. Perhaps the Nomads attempted a rebellion against the Daam-K'Vosh, or perhaps the Daam-K'Vosh realized that the Nomads had matured to the point where they were ill-served by the meddling of their makers. Perhaps -- and in some ways, this seems the most likely explanation -- both events occurred.
The Daam-K'Vosh could not blame their children for desiring their independence: it was a natural if unexpected outgrowth of their origins. In engineering, it is called "exceeding the design specifications"; in life, it is called evolution.
....
Rage coursed through the Nomads -- they had been abandoned, worse, they had been left to the mercy of these aliens -- and they wailed like petulant children screaming to hide their anguish.
But the Nomads were not children in any human sense of the word: they were intelligent and devious. They had once waged war against the very beings that created them , and they had learned to bide their time.

Right.

And I'm suposed to respect this guy when he tells me that I cant to stuff that is very probable according to Chris Todd's faction story, and that he wrote about himself in the lore, and I get told to piss off if I dont like it.

Something else that I found very interesting from the faction description:

Quote:The first clue to the existence of the Daam-K'Vosh -- and to the fact that humanity was not alone -- came with the discovery of an alien structure on Manhattan by the earliest Liberty settlers. Codenamed "Valhalla 1" by the Liberty military, the structure
was immediately put under government control and sealed under Omega Protocol.
After a year of fruitless attempts to unseal the structure, it was finally opened by a brilliant physicist who determined that the aliens who had constructed it used sound and music as an integral part of their language.

Yeah.

The secret vault that the DKV created to be opened by the Nomads was opened by sound.

Not telekinesis. Not telepathy.

Sound.

(01-23-2014, 07:18 AM)Saronsen Wrote: First off, there's almost zero ingame lore about the Nomads, so it was all up for debate as to what they were about. Someone spent some actual time putting something together that made some sense to the majority, and it stuck.

There's not zero lore in the game. A whole lot of it is mentioned or hinted. And pretty much everything is given in Chriss Todd's nomad faction description.

Would would have helped greatly would be if you had made that information easily available on the forums, if people didnt know about it already.

Instead what is provided as lore is an off-forum pdf document that takes some of the information from the game and the faction description and tells the oposite of what other parts really say.

Then, you burn people for following both what the faction description and the lore say, which is in contradicton to neither and in good accordance with both, and for what other people did before you.

(01-23-2014, 07:18 AM)Saronsen Wrote: Second, your own 'logical perception'? What does that mean?

Simply put, it means that I use what I know to deduce what could be, and do my RP using that and creativity.

It doesnt mean acting on what people tell you to do or not do, even if you know they are wrong and doing it simply out of their own arrogant desire to force their will onto others.

Hard to understand for you?

(01-23-2014, 07:18 AM)Saronsen Wrote: Nomads only exist how you think they exist? Or they should all act how you believe they should?

No, thats the exact oposite of what I'm saying. That's what you're saying to me.

They can have their telepathy, their ***"ours" no ~can~ 'grammar'*** living spaceships that send their young spaceships to learn in their enemy's territory, their castes of telekinetik psi-nomads that look like they come from advanced dungeons and dragons, their mermaid kusari anime characters, their K'Hara who fight with [GRN] against LN indies but never with RNS against [LN], their camping-at-the-jumpgates insta-engage nomad cruisers, their uncloak-***surprise***-boom fleets, what eeeever they want.

Just dont tell me I cant do stuff that is in much better agreement with the original nomads and even the discovery lore nomads than that.

When that disco lore document was written, you probably had a lto of fun creatively integrating what you wanted (like the telepathy and psi and castes that had absolutely nothing to do with freelancer nomads). You let yourself be creative.

Now, you're choking the nomad RP with dogmas about stuff that doesnt even come from nomad freelancers like telepathy, and on top of that you forbid people to do stuff that is even described as existing and possible in your lore like hybrids and hybrids in nomad ships, while you're letting yourselves and your friends be infected [GRN] or [LN] fighting with K'Hara nomads and supernavycruisernomadhybrids against people who arent part of your clique.

Maybe one day you'll realize how much that sucks.

(01-23-2014, 07:18 AM)Saronsen Wrote: Piss off.

And I'm beginning to realize why so many people are doing exactly what you're asking me to do there.

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Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by sindroms - 01-22-2014, 03:39 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 03:52 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Remnant - 01-22-2014, 03:53 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by sindroms - 01-22-2014, 03:55 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 03:57 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by sindroms - 01-22-2014, 04:00 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 04:07 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 04:05 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Haste - 01-22-2014, 04:14 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Connor - 01-22-2014, 04:42 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Haste - 01-22-2014, 04:58 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Remnant - 01-22-2014, 05:10 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Haste - 01-22-2014, 05:13 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 06:28 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 06:30 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 06:31 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by sindroms - 01-22-2014, 06:33 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 07:35 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 06:36 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by McNeo - 01-22-2014, 06:51 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-22-2014, 07:04 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by sindroms - 01-22-2014, 07:05 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Lythrilux - 01-22-2014, 07:07 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-22-2014, 07:12 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 07:19 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Lythrilux - 01-22-2014, 07:21 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-22-2014, 07:08 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by sindroms - 01-22-2014, 07:21 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 07:26 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Tibbles - 01-22-2014, 08:47 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by mwerte - 01-22-2014, 09:36 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 09:50 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Remnant - 01-22-2014, 10:40 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 10:45 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-22-2014, 11:00 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 11:23 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-22-2014, 10:22 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Remnant - 01-22-2014, 11:28 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 11:40 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by tothebonezone - 01-23-2014, 07:18 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Remnant - 01-22-2014, 11:59 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-23-2014, 12:00 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by sindroms - 01-23-2014, 03:29 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Remnant - 01-23-2014, 12:03 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-23-2014, 12:10 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-23-2014, 12:42 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-23-2014, 12:50 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Hidamari - 01-23-2014, 12:43 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Omi - 01-23-2014, 12:54 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Remnant - 01-23-2014, 12:56 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Arioch - 01-23-2014, 12:56 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Narcotic - 01-23-2014, 01:06 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Thyrzul - 01-23-2014, 07:01 AM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by McNeo - 01-23-2014, 02:35 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Haste - 01-23-2014, 02:53 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Syf - 01-23-2014, 03:24 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by mwerte - 01-23-2014, 05:28 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 04:10 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 04:19 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 04:22 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by McNeo - 01-25-2014, 06:16 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 04:34 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by ProwlerPC - 01-25-2014, 05:06 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-25-2014, 05:09 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 05:17 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by ProwlerPC - 01-25-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 05:35 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-25-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by ProwlerPC - 01-25-2014, 05:11 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-25-2014, 05:16 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by ProwlerPC - 01-25-2014, 05:19 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by ProwlerPC - 01-25-2014, 05:25 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 05:40 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-25-2014, 05:43 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 05:49 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by ProwlerPC - 01-25-2014, 05:43 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 05:47 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-25-2014, 06:07 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 06:15 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by ProwlerPC - 01-25-2014, 05:50 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 05:52 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Spud - 01-25-2014, 05:59 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Ryummel - 01-25-2014, 06:01 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by ProwlerPC - 01-25-2014, 06:06 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Treewyrm - 01-25-2014, 06:27 PM
RE: Non-Nomad RP on Nomad Cloaked ships - by Arioch - 01-25-2014, 06:29 PM

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