(02-23-2014, 07:23 PM)Jinx Wrote: 80 fearless ---> which will become nothing but still a freaking military grade cruisers
116 nephilim ---> which will become 116 deep space vessels
124 aquillon ---> which will become 124 large armored transports
3 leviathan ( i think its 3 now ) ---> which will become actual 3 dreadnoughts -2 Actually. Phoenix and TAZ
so yea - zoners will focus more on their concept of exploration ( with transport classified RP ships ) - but they keep 2 cruisers and a gunboat - which is pretty much more than your average trading faction.
if the leviathan becomes a regular SRP capital class dreadnought, they even keep the freaking full military shipline ( any fighter, GB, CR, DE, [DN] )
unless the ppl who think their RP deserves a capital warship are afraid they won t get it.... .
Now. Let's look at that last sentance a moment and take a look at the two factions that have actual warships in the Zoner Populace. (Im not trying to be elitism here everyone, just making an example)
Phoenix.
They're based within the omicrons. One of the worst places in Sirius to live. They actually NEED a warship due to their surroundings. You may ask, "why not ask help from the Order or Corsairs?" Simple. When did you last hear or see Zoners working together with them both at the same time? Myself, not in ages. They can't rely souly on asking help with every problem that occurs require capital assets. They can try like heck, but the odds are very slim. Zoners wont be able to use Order/Corsair capitals as well. Due to such relations and what other Houses might think if they took even a single picture of a Zoner tagged/ID'd Corsair Dread or Order Geb. So they must resort to their own. Which sadly from this, will no longer happen. And Phoenix was very lucky to be able to successfully SRP their own variant of the Leviathan for those means. And actual Zoner Warship, for such occassions.
TAZ.
Based at the crossroads of four houses, (Kusari, Bretonia, Gallia, Liberty) And used by a multitude of factions for trading through the lower taus. With a long standing policy of forbidding Nephilims in combat around the area, there was little need to use them aside from psychological warfare, meaning "We have these that we could use on you, if we needed to" But never have we truely had a need for an actual warship. While publically, in the words of Doc Holiday, we cannot make our alliances public knowledge, we took steps to acquire our own heavy warship, the Persephone. Now we have it, a vessel that took many months and a lot of headaches to acquire. However with ours, we have HEAVY restrictions placed in ours. No PoB equipment like Jump Drives, Only able to travels through very limited systems, and not used to attack anyone except within Baffin. If we loose all our nephilims, and our Leviathan, our psychological advantage is gone. And what is to stop say, The outcasts from sending a multitude of vessels with their professional soldiers into a system stripped of any heavy assets outside a Leviathan turned Nephilim? In which the model still clearly shows as a Colony ship. Which may I remind you we would not use for combat.
Here. You have proof that 2 Zoner factions that actually require the Leviathan and a warship. Now how about making the Zoner's a proper bomber and fighter instead of the oversized junk pile we have that was our VHF? Scuse me SHF. Removing two ships that took a pair of factions months to even acquire and then reverting their uniqueness for something we've had for ages wouldn't be a slap in the face. I'd be a punch in the face with a brick.
Now Im sure people here might however be more willing to a fair trade to cut down on several negative things that have plauged zoners for a while now.
Please take in note the following is a proposition:
(02-23-2014, 07:23 PM)Jinx Wrote: 80 fearless ---> but still amilitary grade cruisers -That's fine with everyone
124 aquillon ---> Keep as is with maybe stat changes
116 nephilim ---> which will become 116 deep space vessels -That's fine
2 leviathan ---> Keep as they are to keep Unique ships in the mod, etc
Osprey SHF ---> Revert to a new/proper VHF model
Zoner Medium(?) Bomber ---> Make one for us to use instead of Civ or other gear at 75% (Civ is 100% i'm aware)
-Bit of a sidenote on players slandering Duv. It was he who helped TAZ out finishing our Leviathan SRP. TAZ would appreciate it if those doing so would keep this in mind before saying such things.
-"If we do not learn at least one thing a day....Our minds turn to stupor"- Kyle Sparrgrove -2005
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