Padua Liberty Rogues | PLR:

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Is the current official Rogue faction ok with you staking claim to Cassini like that? They are the ones that designed the system and got it into the mod, it'd be rather impolite to just roll up and go 'hey, this is cool, we're setting up shop'.

It is more a RP mentality the PLR: have "We are leet, and because the LR- cant, we will". We have had talks with the leader of LR- about this, and with the Colorado and north systems being PLR:'s, the rest being the LR-'s. Of course, at the end of the day we are all Rogues, and territory doesn't really matter.

It's more the 'gang turf' mentality.

Putting it simply: Yes, we work very closely with LR-.

Not a question, but that sentence made my head hurt from the grammatical and flow problems.

Whoops. I'll try re-word it. English isn't my best suit.

'olol, we haz fun toys because plot!' ??

There was a bit of RP behind this, and one ship has a SRP for it, the rest of the folk know there needs to be good stuff written before they can use non-Rogue stuff. Not just "because"

Nice.

Thanks.

Cardi addictions are for life. Not "heroin is hard to quit" for life, "your genetic code is altered and you die if you quit" for life.

We know -.-

However, we do have one using cardimine in PLR: and there has been some good RP behind the reasoning there. Moka has always disliked it, and being so dependant on outcasts because of it. So again, there has been substantial RP done over the years when Moka was warlord in LR- and PLR:.

As far as I am aware, LR- are still into the cardimine thing, so we aren't actually ruling it out completely, and we know it is a Rogue thing. As a group of Rogues though, we follow Moka's law, as loyal followers.

Those seem like some very static goals, what are you doing to accomplish them ingame?

Granted, that needs work. We initially thought that would be a good thing to do. But when we realized how freaking boring it is because no one goes to Cassini anymore..... We kinda came to a stand still there, and it is on our to-do list to fix up and get some direction there.

It made a lot more sense when the jump hole was actually in Galileo.

How are foreign capships in New York the concern of a group that is focused on defending Cassini? Is this not just cheap thrills at the expense of newer players who just got capships they want to try out?

Again, very long standing RP with Moka's law. And not too different to the LN not wanting capital ships. We do occasionally operate in New York for that reason.

Why?

Well. It is all well and good operating in the north Liberty parts, but reality is they are pretty inactive. And 95% of the folk in PLR: want to interact with other players. So, we allowed them to go to New York if reports of a capital ship have been made to give them that interaction.

If the cap RPs, we are far less inclined to shoot it.

Again, if the primary goal is to defend and cleanse Cassini, what are you doing in Shikoku?

We can't necessarily smuggle much into Cassini, we can't shoot people who aren't there, and we needed something to keep people logging and add some interest. We are more often then not looting NPCs in Shikoku, for money. And the way I see it.... If KNF and co. log to tell us to leave, activity is Kusari isn't really a bad thing. Especially if everyone enjoys it (And I believe the last time I was there during an interaction with them, pants were pirated and fight followed. Everyone enjoyed it as far as I am aware).

So, activity really.

Again, it made more sense when the Jump hole was actually in Galileo. That being moved made things a little more complicated and has essentially forced us to primarily work more South in Liberty then we actually want to.
(Keep in mind the other intention of the ZOIs was to spread out activity and not have it all in New York.)

Overall, I didn't mind the writeup or faction, I'm just concerned about the "oh, we have magic toys because we spent money gotten from Cardamine and piracy, and we don't need the Outcasts anymore" themes in the Rogues the last few years. I'm also very concerned about the lore inaccuracies regarding Cardi. For a faction that claims to be "all about the roleplay" and "not trying to change Rogue lore", that's a lot of changes to Rogue lore.

Yeah, you are right with the changing Rogue lore thing.

BUT.

We know that the Rogues lore is as it is, and its only really the views of our group - not necessarily Rogues in general, and we don't push it onto Rogues - short of giving the ones with cardi a hard time in RP. And we are intending on, at some point, looking into whether getting our own ID may be a better way to go. As a group though, we believe different groups should be allowed to have different ideas and opinions as long as we don't cause trouble. It just adds to the roleplay rather then 'all of X faction will love you if you do Y'. It means people actually need to talk to their allies in game rather then a simple "hi" as they jump through to the next system.

What we are trying to do is pretty tricky, finding the right balance between stuff being fun for the people in the group - as well as having a good time for people who come into contact with our group.

I do realize this needs a few things changed to make it make more sense, and your points will certainly be taken into consideration while we tweak things and wording slightly.

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