How much influence do indys have nowadays?

[Thyrzul]

The problem is that some expects officials to be responsible for their indies while giving no power over them, nothing to keep them in control. This won't ever work. Obviously one won't take responsibility for something they can't control, and they are rightfully denying said responsibility. Either we separate indies from officials and each takes responsibility for their own crap, officials for their own stuff, indies for their own stuff, or if we really want to blame officials for everything, make them able to control everything. But then again, ignorance is never the answer, nor will ever freeing indies from having to face the consequences of their own actions. The excuse "indies will always be indies" is the worst.

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