(06-18-2014, 01:09 AM)Infinitus Wrote: Do you want all OC indies to get their caps nuked?
Naaaah, if they use them well, why take them away? You can't be serious, can you?
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(06-18-2014, 07:21 AM)Thyrzul Wrote:
(06-18-2014, 01:09 AM)Infinitus Wrote: Do you want official factions to get caps and the rest not?
Sounds like a valid solution to have at least the big toys under control. If players have to join official factions to have their caps, the faction can be held responsible for actions done with those caps, but at the same time can deal with issues internally. I could foresee less stupid things happening if this would become in effect.
See a certain discontinuity in your logic there in your two responses?
Restricting caps to official factions means exactly that very thing: taking them away from indies.
You say you want fair treatment for everyone, then you say you want to reserve ships for official factions, which is basically collective punishment of all indies for stuff that other indies did.
Jinx already said what I wanted to reply while I was reading your stuff, but I'll repeat the main point.
The restrictions that the official factions apply to themselves are THEIR OWN CHOICE. Now you come and say that the restrictions that the officials apply to themselves are unfair and should basically forcefully be applied to indies, and the officials should get to do what they wanted restricted.
Is it hypocrisy, or inability to think your suggestions through, or both?
Its really funny how the first to say that they are not willing to take any responsibility for helping or guiding indies are also the first to say they want power and advantages over them.
If OC caps docking at Rochester are the problem, why not ask that docking OC caps in liberty or bringing them there should be against the rules? Why take that as a reason to demand command authority and equipment advantages for yourself. I know. Right.
(06-18-2014, 07:21 AM)Thyrzul Wrote:
(06-18-2014, 01:09 AM)Infinitus Wrote: Do you want indies to be required to follow every order of every official guy there is, no matter how non-canon lore it is, or get nuked?
Not every, nope. Most of it wouldn't be bad, as there are non-canon things which still make a lot of sense (like I'm not sure how canon the OC-Council hostility is, but I'd be glad if I'd know for sure that I could brand an indie collaborating with OCs a traitor), but to have some fairness in the whole, "control abuse" should be punished in a similar way as "pvp abuse" is. Of course only if it becomes in effect.
The conditions about canon lore and restriction of command authority to 1st and 2nd in command are the very instruments that were meant to prevent "control abuse", and seems exactly that is what you want to get rid of.
Considering the opinions expressed here about not taking responsibility and getting advantages and power, I'd say that some of the people in official factions are exactly the sort of people who should not be.
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