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Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2
Offline Mímir
07-28-2014, 09:06 PM,
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(07-28-2014, 07:11 PM)St.Denis Wrote: There is the main problem, highlighted in green, you are exclusively killing, in your words, certain Traders every time they log. Isn't this a bit excessive?

Alright, that was my mistake. I should have worded it more delicately. I don't kill them each time they log, what I meant to say is that each time I am online, and I notice that my main character's adversaries are also online, I log to interact with them. That often results in shooting, as my character is as hostile as gets towards them, and they towards me.

(07-28-2014, 07:11 PM)St.Denis Wrote: How are these people, and I assume they are grouped together, detrimental to Gameplay?

Much like PVP'ers and roleplayers check the online list for players to interact with, a huge number of traders and suppliers do the exact same thing to avoid interaction. That is detrimental to gameplay, yes, even if it is 5 people in a group avoiding everyone else.

(07-28-2014, 07:11 PM)St.Denis Wrote: I take it you dislike Base Builders and the people who RP around their Bases. And somehow you have decided to go on a one man crusade to put all the perceived wrongs right.

Mind you, it wouldn't be a one-man crusade if 'Burg was more busy playing his Gaian than smoking weed and posting on the forum Tongue To use a specific example, that one base only exists on the grace of lack of Corsair/Gaian players - in lore it seems implausible to build on top of Holmfirth overnight npnp (truth is, I am happy they did, so that there is action).

When my Corsair character, that has existed since before this PoB, undocks a fine morning to find a BMM base and some security/BAF base 14K away, it is of vital importance for him to remove that base. Now this is the character I play, and it is well within pre-defined roleplay, so it is of some importance to me, as the player, that I can actually act out my character's role. Afterall, this is a roleplaying game, that is the reason the majority of us logs.

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Before, I could cover my behind by excessive screen shots and logs, but what now? Will I have to ask the people I pirate how they feel about it? Should I submit a questionnaire? How do I find certainty that I can play my character without the risk of impending admin doom?

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I think that is a serious cost, and cause of doubt, and a question that deserves an answer, because what is the benefit? Unless there is some admin purge on the horizon, I don't see what the statement actually does, besides from adding unnecessary doubts.

(07-28-2014, 07:11 PM)St.Denis Wrote: This Game is for multiple people to enjoy and not just one person or a small group's gratification at the expense of others.

I wholeheartedly agree, but at the core it is a multiplayer social roleplay game, it is not a single-player game we play alongside one another. Your actions can have consequences for me and vice versa, and that is what makes this game worthwhile to some extent.

(07-28-2014, 07:11 PM)St.Denis Wrote: Not everyone is interested in shooting others and if that is all you are interested in then there are others that enjoy that side only. So why don't you go and play with them?

It is hard to find good fights outside of Conneticut and events unless you spill a little blood or step on a few people's toes. Blues and system wide panic messages from innocent traders is the perfect bait for white knighting players. If I could just "go play with them" outside of Conn, I most certainly would, but that is not how the server works, especially with the lower player count.

(07-28-2014, 07:11 PM)St.Denis Wrote: Your second paragraph just seems your way of justifying it to a) yourself and b) others. I just feel the need to let you know, and I am sure others feel the same, that you don't have to do this for me as I could enjoy the Game just as well, or even more so, if you didn't go on this one man Crusade.

How does my crusade affect you, why do you have an opinion on it? Again, as I tried to say earlier, we are all different people. Some like no challenge, some like to be challenged. I know there are traders seeking out the most dangerous routes for the thrill of it. I bet you too that you would be bored in the long run if there were no pirates and no real sense of danger. There'd be no "game", no point in playing. It's not like NPC's or making ridiculous amounts of credits is difficult in any way, it is the other players that provide the challenge.

(07-28-2014, 07:18 PM)Marburg Wrote: Mimir, you should try to lighten up...seriously. You have this specific paranoid narrative already built up in your brain that is based up on nothing but assumptions.

Of course my post is based on assumptions, derived from experience no less. How is yours or St. Denis' post any different in that respect? If anything, you are making some pretty deep assumptions about me here.

(07-28-2014, 07:18 PM)Marburg Wrote: If you feel guilt about it & only do it to help the server from "power-hungry, money-grubbing, base-supplying power-traders" that you deem are detrimental to gameplay, then you're doing & thinking it wrong.

No on a player level I just try to be the antithesis to that for some balance. In the specific case I like the action that Manchester base brings, I think it is "unfair" or unbalanced towards Gaians now and in the future that they weren't rich in numbers when somebody decided to build a base. The whole PoB thing is very unbalanced that way, there needs to be someone present to oppose it, or that part of space is forever lost, no matter what previous lore might have stated. That's a shame.

If everyone was powertrading, where would the interaction be? If everyone were pirates, were would the action be? If everyone are playing LNS ships, where would the in-rp war be? It is slowly happening, and the very fact that you can build bases 14K from existing Gaian installations goes to show that more people ought to play the badguy to regain the balance. I try to do the opposite of most people do to ensure my own online time is maximized, and I don't think that is wrong. As a side effect I do think that is beneficial to the server overall, that players do their best try to spread out activities in even numbers. That I happen to play a Corsair character with a burning red hatred towards BMM is just a fortunate coincidende, personally I don't hate anything on this server except for botfeeding and sometimes mines.

(07-28-2014, 07:18 PM)Marburg Wrote: It's not your place to put the weight of the server on your shoulders, & it seems you have some trouble separating character knowledge from player knowledge. You really should rethink the logic of why you do what you do & the reason it's making you paranoid

I think you are reading too much into things.

Disclaimer: This is just a forum discussion. I am applying the precautionary principle and focus on the negatives, the costs, rather than the benefits. That is not because I am paranoid or cynical on a personal level, I assure you that neither this forum nor the game matters very little in my emotional life, but because it is the soundest method of inquiry. When a new rule is imposed it is wise to look at the costs, and it is fair to debate them, and that is what I am currently trying to do.

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Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Garrett Jax - 07-27-2014, 08:27 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by sindroms - 07-27-2014, 08:55 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Internity - 07-27-2014, 09:12 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Jihadjoe - 07-28-2014, 04:28 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Zayne Carrick - 07-27-2014, 09:26 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by farmerman - 07-28-2014, 03:29 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Jack_Henderson - 07-27-2014, 09:31 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Highland Laddie - 07-27-2014, 09:40 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Internity - 07-27-2014, 10:10 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Highland Laddie - 07-27-2014, 10:35 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by n00bl3t - 07-28-2014, 12:47 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Lord.MacRae - 07-27-2014, 10:32 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Omicron - 07-27-2014, 10:43 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Vredes - 07-27-2014, 10:45 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Omicron - 07-27-2014, 10:47 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Vredes - 07-27-2014, 11:52 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Danny-boy - 07-27-2014, 11:01 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Technogeist - 07-27-2014, 11:34 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Vulkhard Muller - 07-27-2014, 11:49 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Luke. - 07-27-2014, 11:58 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by hawk - 07-28-2014, 03:35 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Scumbag - 07-28-2014, 05:28 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Marburg - 07-28-2014, 05:56 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Scumbag - 07-28-2014, 06:00 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Marburg - 07-28-2014, 06:12 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Lord Caedus - 07-28-2014, 06:01 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Alley - 07-28-2014, 06:05 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by farmerman - 07-28-2014, 06:10 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Scumbag - 07-28-2014, 06:53 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Flinx - 07-28-2014, 07:51 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by sindroms - 07-28-2014, 07:58 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Mímir - 07-28-2014, 07:59 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Alley - 07-28-2014, 08:09 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Panzer - 07-28-2014, 08:49 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Curios - 07-28-2014, 09:40 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Sath - 07-28-2014, 09:57 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Papa Oomaumau - 07-28-2014, 12:05 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Highland Laddie - 07-28-2014, 02:27 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Mímir - 07-28-2014, 03:35 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Alley - 07-28-2014, 02:18 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Papa Oomaumau - 07-28-2014, 02:56 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Exploration - 07-28-2014, 02:36 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by St.Denis - 07-28-2014, 02:54 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by n00bl3t - 07-28-2014, 03:05 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Mímir - 07-28-2014, 06:39 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by St.Denis - 07-28-2014, 07:11 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Mímir - 07-28-2014, 09:06 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Marburg - 07-28-2014, 07:18 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Omicron - 07-28-2014, 07:42 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Govedo13 - 07-29-2014, 08:29 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Doria - 07-28-2014, 08:00 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Marburg - 07-28-2014, 08:02 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Siren Stone - 07-28-2014, 09:49 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Mímir - 07-28-2014, 10:42 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Marburg - 07-28-2014, 10:59 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Thyrzul - 07-28-2014, 11:25 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Remnant - 07-28-2014, 11:04 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Mímir - 07-28-2014, 11:10 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Sath - 07-28-2014, 11:37 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Jack_Henderson - 07-29-2014, 01:22 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Switchback - 07-29-2014, 01:33 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Visivicous - 07-29-2014, 03:49 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Curios - 07-29-2014, 07:14 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Doria - 07-29-2014, 09:32 AM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Thyrzul - 07-29-2014, 12:15 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Jihadjoe - 07-29-2014, 12:28 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by n00bl3t - 07-29-2014, 01:38 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Jihadjoe - 07-29-2014, 05:16 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by n00bl3t - 07-29-2014, 07:19 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Jihadjoe - 07-29-2014, 10:51 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by The.Wizard - 07-29-2014, 01:40 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Thyrzul - 07-29-2014, 01:49 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by 7AlphaOne1 - 07-29-2014, 01:51 PM
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RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Highland Laddie - 07-29-2014, 03:19 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Zen_Mechanics - 07-29-2014, 02:04 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Mímir - 07-29-2014, 02:14 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Zen_Mechanics - 07-29-2014, 03:03 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Sath - 07-29-2014, 03:14 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Thyrzul - 07-29-2014, 03:23 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Highland Laddie - 07-29-2014, 03:36 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by St.Denis - 07-29-2014, 03:43 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by 7AlphaOne1 - 07-29-2014, 04:33 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Trogdor - 07-29-2014, 04:56 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Highland Laddie - 07-29-2014, 05:45 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Curios - 07-29-2014, 06:47 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Papa Oomaumau - 07-29-2014, 06:55 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Curios - 07-29-2014, 07:05 PM
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RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Trogdor - 07-29-2014, 07:35 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Highland Laddie - 07-29-2014, 07:37 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Garrett Jax - 07-29-2014, 08:11 PM
RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Thyrzul - 07-29-2014, 10:35 PM
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RE: Announcement Regarding Rule 1.2 - by Mephistoles - 07-29-2014, 11:24 PM
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