I try to keep candid when talking about these things, rather than dancing obsequiously around the issue. When both of you, too, feel like doing the community a service and cutting the crap - so to speak - feel free to give me a call. You'll find it can be rather refreshing.
There's a lot more I'd like to say, but in the interests of not having all my posts reported and winding up with more forum issues when things get a little too truthful and hard-hitting for certain people, I think I'll go do something else for now. Say it without vitriol and people will take notice, say it with rancor and people take umbrage, then they drag in Admins and fuel the cycle which has brought the community to where it appears to be. Unhappy and using each other as an Aunt Sally rather than trying to improve collectively - Tunicle