Official Faction Spring Cleaning

[Reverend Del]

I for one am not going to sit by the wayside if anyone starts saying that the phantoms or keepers need to change.

I'll admit that theres been some iffy RP occasionally from the phantoms (no matter what the reason, going OoRP after OoRP traders is bad RP to start with). Or that people misunderstand or try to use information their character has no access to when interacting with phantom characters.

But the phantoms must be doing it right for igiss to agree they need their own ID, npcs and system. So if igiss thinks it's good enough I'm not going to tell him he's wrong. This mod is his creation, if he wants something done he'll either do it or ask someone to do it because he doesn't have the time to do so anymore.

Also, these people know who they are, will you stop bashing the keepers every damn chance you can. Theres well over a dozen, mostly unrelated, threads on this forum with posts from one or two people that are just having a go at the keepers.

I am sick to death of people bashing what they don't like/understand, this is the third time I'm seriously considering the option of not bothering to read or post anything on these forums at all.

No more posts in message dumps, no stories, no bios, no welcomes, nothing, nada, nil, zil.

I see just one more post/thread bashing any faction whatsoever and I'm gone.

I'll copy/paste all my story and message dump posts that I want to keep for my own use/whatever. I'll be ingame, I'll be on here long enough to download a new mod version and to check the rules once a month...

as a guest only.

Marauder this is not about bashing any faction, in fact I would like to avoid that at all costs, I have stated and I will state again, that the history of any given faction as old as some of these is irrelevant when compared to in game events. Simple as that. I agree that people bashing the Keepers seems to have been something of a Discovery past-time for some, but I am not advocating that. It's more about bringing some of these faction statuses up to date. Not about whether we think they should be in the game or not. In fact it is very definitely not about that, these factions are not going anywhere even if I wanted them to, which I don't.

Tony: Since when has join date mattered? I have seen enough of the faction statuses to know that some of them are horribly outdated, in fact I've read them all so I have a clear understanding of who is where and waht they are doing, but some of them are unclear. I have no intention of attempting to make the Phantoms/Keepers/SCRA/NovaPG change, I would just like to see that there diplomacies are up to date and that new users can gain a clear undertsanding of how the Faction system works. It is not trial by forums, most people can see that, the threads that are up a the moment are about peaceful and civilised enquiry into X and Y regarding those factions.

Yuri is right, the voluntary system needs time to mature and to see if it can work, I intend to give it that.

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Saint Del is considered a holy healer of diseases of children, but also as a protector of cattle.